Prism Deluxe Skimmer

ivy2dw7

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What are your thoughts on this protein skimmer? My lfs has a couple in right now, pretty good price, definitely tons better than spending more on a seaclone. I'd be using it on a 37g reef tank.
 

scubadoo

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I purchased one and did not like it. You need a mop and a bucket when you are adjusting the flow. Mine overflowed when I first set it up. I went with the Remora and it works great.
 

hurt

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I have both skimmers on my tank, and the Prizm actually does a better job than the Remora. I maybe empty the collection contanier on my Remora once every 2 weeks. My prizm I empty every 3-4 days, and it's not a wet foam at all. I don't really understand it because most everyone says the Aqua C Remora is better, but I've seen what each can do. Here's a picture of the Prizm collection container on the left and Remora on the right. The Remora was last emptied 6 days ago and the Prizm last emptied 2 days ago.
 

acrylic51

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IMO the Prizm isn't a bad little skimmer got one from a friend tearing down his tank and have his fish and a couple pieces of LR in the tank and the thing is amazing to watch and does pull nice muk everyday
 

scubadoo

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If you have two skimmers on the tank...one will compete with the other. I can assure you the Remora is a better skimmer...but it is just my opinion. The Prizm does have good reviews, but I did not like the adjusting.
 

acrylic51

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The Prizm is kinda whacky adjusting it.
So ScubDoo your trying to say that you really can't run 2 skimmers at the same time on a tank???
 

scubadoo

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You can run two at the same time...but one will compete against the other. It is best to have one big enough to handle the entrie tank. I have tried and found that the single skimmer works best and I have seen others post the same opinion. Again, just my opinion. All situations are different and two may work best for you.
 

acrylic51

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Just curious that you said that because I've thought the same thing... Have you ever seen Steve Wests' Tank???? You should check out his site... He is running multiple skimmers.
I'm curious as to how you would get them to both pull equal if that is entirely possible being if you were running 2 of the same type, size skimmers????
 

jlem

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Originally posted by ScubaDoo
If you have two skimmers on the tank...one will compete with the other.

Does one skimmer somehow know that there is another skimmer in the tank and therefor tries harder to be the best.
 

scubadoo

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I believe Escaobal wrote a book where math models are used for skimming design and are tied to tank size, water turnover, etc...Not sure how old the book is or if I have the correct name. Some folks in the hobby warn that you can overskim a tank and deprive some corals of required nutrients. Therefore, some will claim that multiple skimmers do not mean that you are improvong the quality of your tank.
 

acrylic51

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I've never really heard of much of overskimming I'm sure it's possible, but most tanks are underskimmed anyways
 

scubadoo

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Cut and past of article by Albert Thiel...The sump is the area where the apparantly very beneficial filtration occurs. Judging from the results that can be seen on the web site, the filtration is working extremely well indeed, especially since NO skimmer is used. You read that correctly: no skimmer is necessary on this system.
Gee, and here we talk about bigger and bigger skimmers all the time, and suddenly we see a near perfect system that does not use any at all. In fact, Mr. Leng Sy is against using them as they deplete the beneficial nutrients from the system.
 

scubadoo

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Just one guy that thinks you can overkim a system. I do believe that those that run skimmers and have zero trates and phates...are not underskimming.
 

scubadoo

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Cut and paste..a moderator from another site......Finally, and perhaps most importantly, I wasn't referring to dissolved organics in the article being quoted, although they are certainly including in the broad sense of the statement. My point is simply that if water quality is adequate or better, any amount of skimming above that level is overskimming as it is removing substances that are beneficial to organisms in the tank - and although it continues to remove things detrimental, as well, we have already established that the water quality at that level is adequate or better than adequate. And yes, you can have water that is too low in dissolved organics. As I said, many things use it as a food source and some would die without it.
My opinion...I believe aquariums need skimmers...and I also believe it is possible to over skim. Perhaps that is why the Remora is not producing gunk in this post....not certain...but there are differing theories and opinions. I had two skimmers on a tank a few years ago...one produced some foam..the other produced little. I had better results with using one that was big enough for the tank. Again, just my opinion and based on my experience.

I'll get off the soap box...sorry for the rambling to all.
 

reefnut

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I run two Prizms and IMO they stink... constant adjustments are needed to keep them skimming.
As far as overskimming IMO that would be hard to do... especially with the skimmers most of us use.
 

ivy2dw7

Member
Well, to end this post, I am going to buy the Prizm and try it out. I talked to my guy at the lfs and he says he likes it better then the CPR he has running on one of the tanks in the store, and better than an Oceanic one that cost way too much running on another tank. I'm sure I will be posting pics of the tank when it's all finished, just may be awhile depending on my money situation. Thanks for all the advice.
 

clown52

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I have one. Had to replace the motor on it cause it went out. It's loud, hard to adjust, puts a lot of micro bubbles in my tank, but it does get a lot of crud out of the water.
 

hurt

Active Member
I run two Prizms and IMO they stink... constant adjustments are needed to keep them skimming.
You must have a very high bio load in your tank. Mine is always open just about full. I never have to adjust it. My nitrates and phosphates are both 0. Once you get your tanks parameters where they should be, you will be able to let it run full open with no adjustments.
 
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