PS2 vs Quiet One 4000 HH

caz2022

Member
Im trying to push water up about 10ft. Im thinking about one of these pumps as my return from my sump (converted 55) to my 75 FOWLER. Im just looking for opinions.
 

caz2022

Member
nope-my tanks int the ceiling-kidding!!! Ya i moved my sump to the basement. It will actually make it ALOT easier servicing it. As far as plumbing goes Im not sure-either 1" PVC or LineLoc
 

caz2022

Member
Originally Posted by natclanwy
http:///forum/post/2875644
A quietone 4000HH will give you about 400gph at 10ft of head, what type of overflow do you have?
I have two different overflows-one rated for 600 ghp and the other for 1200 gph
 

natclanwy

Active Member
If they HOB are overflows the 4000HH will be the bare minimum for the 600GPH overflow and not nearly enough for the 1200gph overflow. If you have a drilled tank then it doesn't matter what your flow rate is.
 

maxsmart

Member
Originally Posted by natclanwy
http:///forum/post/2878830
If they HOB are overflows the 4000HH will be the bare minimum for the 600GPH overflow and not nearly enough for the 1200gph overflow. If you have a drilled tank then it doesn't matter what your flow rate is.
Why wouldn't it matter? Does the overflow tube creating a siphon if the water level rises above it force an increased flow? I am curious, I was thinking about increasing my return pump size.
 

natclanwy

Active Member
No, HOB overflows require a minimum amount of flow rate to keep air from accumulating at the top of the U-tube. In this case the OP was trying to push the water up 10ft which creates a large head pressure for the pump to overcome so the 1000gph 4000HH pump will only pump at rate of 400gph. Which is the bare minimum flow rate for a 600gph overflow.
 

caz2022

Member
Originally Posted by natclanwy
http:///forum/post/2935568
No, HOB overflows require a minimum amount of flow rate to keep air from accumulating at the top of the U-tube. In this case the OP was trying to push the water up 10ft which creates a large head pressure for the pump to overcome so the 1000gph 4000HH pump will only pump at rate of 400gph. Which is the bare minimum flow rate for a 600gph overflow.
My U-tubes both have an airline hooked to a lift pump. It pulls the air out and prevents the syphon from being broken.
 

natclanwy

Active Member
Actually the holes allow the syphon to break, this is why you need the pump to keep the syphon going. A normal U-tube without airline fittings will never lose its siphon as long the return pump and U-tubes are sized correctly and are properly maintained. Regular U-tubes without airline fittings are by far the most reliable type of overflow with the style Caz is using following behind and CPR style overflows coming in last.
 

saltfan

Active Member
Go with the 1200gph. You can always run a return line back from the pump, using a T, and a valve to get the correct return gph.
 
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