question about phosban reactor

[iluvfish]

I finally got my phosban reactor in. But the only pump I have is a RIO 2500. Will this work until I get a smaller maxijet? Or would I be better off to wait?
Also.........
Does anyone have any pictures of how their's is set up? I want to use it under my stand with the input into my sump. I am so illiterate when it comes to reading directions though. Can anyone help me?

 

[footbag]

You probably could use a 2500 with the valve close to closed, but you may need to get a reducer. IT may be difficult to get that slow of a flow though. And I would rather have a pump that pumps too slow then too fast. I used an Aquaclear 201(126 GPH) It has a square head, but the tubing fit tightly over it.
What size tubing fits on the Rio. I fit 1/2" onto my reactor and used 4 elbows. I currently have it hanging on the front of my tank, until I switch out my sump for a larger one.
I made a 2 U's out of tubing and elbows. One led to my powerhead, and one is the return. If you made these U's and then used enough tubing to have the PH level with the base of the reactor, then you could place it in the sump.
One weird thing that I noticed about the reactor is that it didn't fit on to the side of my tank. I have to keep it on the front.

 

[footbag]

Just extend the tube leading to the rio and the sump. Maybe zip-tie them to the reactor to keep it compact. Getting the right flow rate is half the battle, doing it twice will be a pain. Maybe wait for a smaller pump.
Also I'm not recommending the Aquaclear 201. I hate these powerheads, but there all thats available locally.

 

[iluvfish]

Thanks Footbag.
Anyone else with suggestions on setting this up? Do I need elbows? I have 1/2 inch tubing. I will pick up a maxijet on Wednesday. What size do you recommend?

 

[golfish]

Originally posted by iluvfish
Thanks Footbag.
Anyone else with suggestions on setting this up? Do I need elbows? I have 1/2 inch tubing. I will pick up a maxijet on Wednesday. What size do you recommend?
I used a 1200 on mine fully open when I ran phosban...I've since come to my senses and stopped using phosban. The Reactor does works pretty good for Carbon tho.

 

[robchuck]

I run a Maxijet 400 on my Phosban reactor, and have to close the valve slightly. The 400 seems like a good sized pump for the reactor.

 

[iluvfish]

Originally posted by golfish
...I've since come to my senses and stopped using phosban.
What do you mean?

 

[golfish]

Originally posted by iluvfish
What do you mean?
well, I think people (myself included) jumped into using this stuff before there was any real feed back on it. I had a new system up and was having tons of alage problems. I put macro's in my fuge about the same time I started the phosban. I won't say all my alage went away but it sure did get a lot better. I also started having problems with a lot of my sps turning white, not dying, just turning white. This seems to happen to a lot of people using the two po4 removers (phosban and Rowaphos) I'm not saying the phosban had anything to do with my sps problems. I think it started before I used Phosban, but I'm sure it didn't help. I also don't think phosban had anything to do with my algae getting better, I'm almost sure it didn't help with that.
I've done just fine for years without this stuff. The feed back I'm getting is about 50% are having problems with it and 50% are not having problems...that's pretty poor if you ask me.

 

[footbag]

I'm not saying the phosban had anything to do with my sps problems.
Why not? It's most likely either the Phosban, Rowaphos or the PO4. I think that enough people have has issues with SPS whitening that you can conclude there is a connection. I know I'm keeping an eye on my few SPS corals.

 

[golfish]

Originally posted by footbag
Why not? It's most likely either the Phosban, Rowaphos or the PO4. I think that enough people have has issues with SPS whitening that you can conclude there is a connection. I know I'm keeping an eye on my few SPS corals.
This happened way before I used phosban. We think these two corals may have bleached from using a different spectrum bulb. They were both corals from my old 150 that were held for a year or more in tanks running 10K's, then plunked in my tank running Radiums.

 

[golfish]

about 4-6 weeks later. I'm not really sure how long it took

 

[golfish]

Now this corals a little different. It was always white with blue tips in my tanks. In both old yeller tangs tank and Skilos's tank its mostly all blue.

 

[golfish]

the phosban could have easly kept these corals from coloring back up and could have effected some of my other corals. I'm not sure, I'm slowly going through the whole tank.

 

[iluvfish]

REALLY!!:scared:
I hadn't heard about that. Has anyone seen a difference between Rowaphos and Phosban? Or do they both cause this?

 

[spsfreak100]

Originally posted by iluvfish
REALLY!!:scared:
I hadn't heard about that. Has anyone seen a difference between Rowaphos and Phosban? Or do they both cause this?
I've just stopped using Phosban roughly a week ago. Shortly after I hooked up the reactor I noticed a declined pH (7.8-8.0) as well as two RTN events. I didn't think much of it and ignored it. Later in that week two other corals, a M. sarmensis and M. peltiformis, did not have any polyp extension. Before the reactor was hooked up the polyp extension and growth was great. I then turned off the reactors and within 24 hours the polyps were back out. I have no doubt that this was caused by the po4 remover.
On the other side, the phosphate went from .25ppm to undetectable within 24 hours. I also noticed a huge byropsis decline while using Phosban.
Graham