Question about Tangs

juanro

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I know my 55 isn't enough for a tang long term, I am currently keeping a Scopa and a Powder Blue Tang in my tank while my friends tank cycles. My friend also wants to add a Powder Brown, Blue Hippo and a Yellow tang, but the problem is that he already has the Scopa which from what I've seen is aggressive. We've been told by the LFS that I can put the Scopa on a breeder box I have (box covered with a net) for 2 days if we add another tang to my tank to avoid any aggression.
Is this true? When we added the PB I put the Scopa into the breeder box, but only for a few hours cause I couldn't stand seeing him trapped in there and was worried he would be stressed to much.
 

tangs rule

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For three tangs+ - your friends tank better be 200+ gallons, and A scopas can be impossible to ever house in a small tank with another tang(s)
 

juanro

Member
So for his 150 max 2 tangs?
If he trades in the Scopa for a Powder Brown, would there be a problem with the Powder Blue?
 

tangs rule

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The first post mentions 5 species of tang, with 3 of them being very agressive fish (scopas/pblu/yt) plus 2 docile fish, (pbrn/hippo) and I would suggest 3 max for 150. However because of the mean temperment of some of the desired species - a successful pairing may not be easy OR possible, depending the indivudual species you get. IMO there only 3 tangs MORE viscous than the scopas/pblu/yt - and that;s the sohal, clown, and purple - which I think are the most belligerent tangs
 

juanro

Member
So he should give up on the 3 aggressive? Or is it possible to keep the 2 docile and the P Blue?
He really likes the P Blue, and we managed to get it for a really good price.
If its not possible, I'll do my best to convince him to give up on the 3 aggressive tangs.
What if we traded in the Scopa, and gave the P Blue to another friend for a few days while the P Brown and the Blue Hippo got established in my tank? I know that I seem stubborn since I'm asking stuff like this, just want to be sure there's no way for the 3 to be together, in a safe way.
 

tangs rule

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It's never "impossible" it just depends on the invidual one(s) you get - and the odds of the species your going to attempt to pair. In SOME cases you may get a tang that'll NEVER pair with another tang, in which case I'd find him a new home and try another one. I'd almost think adding all 3 of his agressive fish at the same time in the DT after they get out of qtine, and just be ready to catch the one that gets picked on. I;d try this with lights out - from insertion, into the night, and let the lights come on on day 2 for the first time. . just be ready to remove somebody if it gets rough.
As far as your 2nd idea - that likely has the best possiblily of working, acclimating the hippo & pbrn - then adding the pblue....again, i'd add the pblu last, introduce him late in the day and lights out - watch them some overnite but keep them all in the dark on the new arrival till the next morn..Again be ready at lights on to "rescue" someone if it goes wrong.
I've ben very lucky, as my PB and purple are fairly mellow - and as long as I don't add any new large fish - they just wait for food and get along with the other 6 large fish in the tank (4 tangs, an angle, a butterfly)
 

juanro

Member
OK, thanks for all the help!
I'll be doing the 2nd idea.
One last question, when the 150 is cycled, should we move first the hippo and the pbrn, and on a later date the pblue, or should they all go in at the same time?
 

tang1joe

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I have a chance of picking up a PBT at a good price but I have a Orange shoulder tang and a YT but am worried about the agressive nature of the PB and YT. The tank is 135G and I have to QT the YT when introducing the others for a week or so and has worked for the most part. I really want to PBT but I've read that they are very difficult to keep in captivity so I'm concerned. Also there is the Ich factor with PBT's. Am I being too cautious??
 

tangs rule

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Juanro http:///forum/thread/386940/question-about-tangs#post_3401123
OK, thanks for all the help!
I'll be doing the 2nd idea.
One last question, when the 150 is cycled, should we move first the hippo and the pbrn, and on a later date the pblue, or should they all go in at the same time?
That's whatI'd do (bold) just remember that if these fish are larger - it's alot of bioload in a new tank - so i'd do the hip&pbrn first, then wait 6+ weeks before adding the Pblue - and the pblue should be the last
of the large fish added - so if they are gonna have angles, butterflies, rabbbits, or other large fishes - do them PRIOR to the pblue......and again, late in the day / lights off / keep dark till next morning / be ready @ lights on to play "umpire" seems to be a nice time to transfer agressive fish IME.
 

juanro

Member
OK, guess I get to keep the P Blue for a while

As far as I know, the only big fish will be the 3 tangs.
He plans on 2 clowns, a dwarf angel, and a couple of anthias.
Edit:
Forgot to ask, how much time should the P Blue be out of my tank while we put in the Hippo and P Brown?
 

juanro

Member
I'm asking how long should the P Blue be in my other friends tank while the P Brown and the Blue Hippo got established in my tank?
A week? Can it be less? Or should it be more?
 

tangs rule

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Ok
the longer the pbrn & hippo get established the better....Their confidence will be tested when the pblue shows up, so i'd keep the hippo&pbrn in the 150 together as long as possible - atleast 3-4 weeks before upsetting the balance with the pblu.. I hope yall have qtine tanks for these guys - it's such a pain to catch tangs in large tanks, and all tangs are total ich magnets.
 
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