Red Sea Sailfin Tang

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Hello Everyone,
I am new to the Marine Fish hobby, but I am not new to freshwater fish aquariums. I have been dealing with freshwater fish for about 5 years and I just started this year (January 2012) with saltwater. I have read a lot and been to a lot of lfs and even spent a lot of time reading other forums, so I have a good (not great) grasp on saltwater care. Here are my specifications first, as I am sure I will not get a straight answer until this is completed so:
50 Gallon tall tank (36x18x19)
Protein Skimmer: yes (Skimmer + biomedia)
Cannister Filter: yes (hang-on filter)
Power heads: yes (2 small)
UV Sterilizer: yes (also w/ powerhead; total of 3 power heads)
Open top with High output dual fluorescent bulbs double switch for individual control (white and purple)
Salinity/Specific Gravity: 1.021
Amonia: 0
Nitrate: 0
Nitrite: 0
pH: 8
Temperature: 78 degrees-80degrees
Marine aquarium cycled over 4 months (got to keep my 20g freshwater tank for a little while longer lol)
Tank Decor: 30lbs of Live rock and plenty of hiding places on the bottom and open room on the top for swimming
Fish:
Purchased in the month of June
3.5" Koran Angel
2.5" Blue-eye Royal Dottyback
3" foxface
Purchased in the month of July
3" Blue Spotted Toby/Puffer
3" red Sea Sailfin Tang
1.5" Blue Tang
Purchased in August (today)
2" Longnose Butterfly Fish
2" Bannerfish
Cycling finished in June F.Y.I
If there is any more information, please let me know! Thanks... on to my question
I just purchased my long nose butterfly and banner fish today. Once I dripped acclimated them and got them used to the temperature I used my 4" wide soft net to place them in. As soon as I dropped them in (maybe 2 minutes later, my red Sea Sailfin goes nuts! (By nuts I mean, claiming his territory and trying to get his point across to the new fish) Now it has done this before with my Koran Angel, but they are buddy buddy (apparently) because I find them staying together and swimming together throughout the day. For some reason my Bannerfish and Longnose are targets. The rest of my fish get a long fine, with no issues. NONE WHAT SO EVER, my two new fish did not even come in contact with the red Sailfin. My Longnose and Bannerfish went behind a couple live rock on the bottom of the tank (I am assuming because it was a new environment) and then out of no where My red Sailfin swoops in and attacks. Not nips, but attacks and chases.
I've seen my sail fin nip at my other fish, but not like this and not this consistent. Now my Bannerfish doesn't move, it stays in the bottom left corner of my tank behind a tight corner of live rock and my long nose stays at the top right corner next to one of my power heads and hang-on canister filter. Despite my new fishes best efforts to hide or go un-noticed my sailfin still tries to harass them.
What is going on?
Thank you all for helping!
(Oh, I do know how big each fish can get, and I am well aware that I will be needing a larger tank within a couple years and I already have the set-up in mind: 100+gallon with all the goodies!)
 

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Hello, and welcome to the site!
Your fish are aggressive because you have too many fish in the tank. Also the fish you have are not suited to the size and height of the tank...while all the fish fit now, they are going to get huge, I listed the size tank each fish needs and the ADULT size, which is what you have to consider. Red = not suitable at all
3.5" Koran Angel needs a 135g, Adult size 15 "
2.5" Blue-eye Royal Dottyback (this fish is okey)
3" foxface needs a 75g , Adult size 9.4"
3" Blue Spotted Toby/Puffer (I don't know anything about this fish)
3" red Sea Sailfin Tang Needs a 135g, Adult size 15.7"
1.5" Blue Tang Needs a 75g
, (needs lots of swim room, not suited for TALL tanks) Adult size 9.1"
2" Longnose Butterfly Fish needs a 55g Adult size 3.9 (this fish might be okay, I'm not sure)
2" Bannerfish Needs 100g
Adult size 7.1"
A 50g TALL tank has less room than a standard 55g...it has no swimming space, they are better used as Seahorse tanks because of the height. Fish that like to hang out in the rocks such as the dwarf angels, or stay in a small space such as the clown fish, or are vertical fish such as the Seahorse, these are suitable for your tank. If you think removing a fish when it outgrows the tank is an easy thing, think again...you have to dismantle the entire tank to get a fish out.
An example of the kind of fish you can keep in this size and type of tank. Keep in mind, you can't add all of these fish, you must choose. In a 50g tall tank, 6 to 8 small fish is all that should be stocked in it.
1 Pair of clown fish
1 Dwarf Angelfish
Dottyback or Royal Gramma (one or the other not both)
Wrasse
Anthias
Chromis
Damselfish (very aggressive, not recommended)
Captive bred
Seahorses
 
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Thank you for such a quick response! This forum is great, I posted this late last night and got a response by 9am.
I am in the process right now of getting a 250g right now.
Thank you for the great info!
If there is anything I should know about the 250g long I am getting please let me know; such as parameters, type of sump or powerheads I need, any feedback would be great.
 

flower

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Originally Posted by TGcatch22 http:///t/392765/red-sea-sailfin-tang#post_3489723
Thank you for such a quick response! This forum is great, I posted this late last night and got a response by 9am.
I am in the process right now of getting a 250g right now.
Thank you for the great info!
If there is anything I should know about the 250g long I am getting please let me know; such as parameters, type of sump or powerheads I need, any feedback would be great.
Hi,
Pick your favorite fish and build around that. Get fish and everything else that has the same needs. The bigger the sump you can manage, the better. You might want to check out MP20 or 40 for such a big tank. Folks hang out here all day and most of the night...somebody is always around, so feel free to just jump in and chat....you can share an opinion, post pictures, as long as it's fish related and not meant to spark an argument...its all good.
I suggest these books, they are great for figuring out what you want in a tank and will save you money, and headaches. I also posted sample pages so you can see the type of info they offer.



 
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