reducing vinyl tubing
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forcrz6
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Originally Posted by saltn00b
http:///forum/post/2940672
i want to go from 1" -> 3/4"
is something like this a universal range type reducer the only way?
4.99
Laguna Multi-Tubing Adapter
* Connects two hoses of different diameters.
* Quick and easy installation.
* Provides a secure fit.
* Metric or standard measures.
Naw. You can still use PVC for this application. Just go to Local Hardware store and get the 1 to 3/4 Reducer. It is win for you. I mean all that is is Plastic AKA poly Vinyl. No diffrent from Poly Vinyl Carbonate AKA PVC
http:///forum/post/2940672
i want to go from 1" -> 3/4"
is something like this a universal range type reducer the only way?
4.99
Laguna Multi-Tubing Adapter
* Connects two hoses of different diameters.
* Quick and easy installation.
* Provides a secure fit.
* Metric or standard measures.
Naw. You can still use PVC for this application. Just go to Local Hardware store and get the 1 to 3/4 Reducer. It is win for you. I mean all that is is Plastic AKA poly Vinyl. No diffrent from Poly Vinyl Carbonate AKA PVC
forcrz6
Member
Originally Posted by saltn00b
http:///forum/post/2941522
but how do you secure the tubing to the PVC reducer?
4 choices.
You can in all theory still use PVC pipe glue. All that really does is melt the vinyl to the PVC.
Or you can get hose clamps for this is it is not in the water.
Super glue
Silicone
http:///forum/post/2941522
but how do you secure the tubing to the PVC reducer?
4 choices.
You can in all theory still use PVC pipe glue. All that really does is melt the vinyl to the PVC.
Or you can get hose clamps for this is it is not in the water.
Super glue
Silicone
snakeblitz33
Well-Known Member
Don't take Forcrz advice, IMO. The easiest way to do it is your universal fitting with two hose clamps.
As far as I am concerned, you can not glue vinyl to pvc, it's two totally different chemical structures.
As far as I am concerned, you can not glue vinyl to pvc, it's two totally different chemical structures.
snakeblitz33
Well-Known Member
If you are talking about a reducer coupling, 1" to 3/4" it looks like this:
Then you would have to insert PVC into those two ends, and then put a female adaptor on those two ends, and then a male adaptor barb fitting for that on both ends.
female adaptor slip x FTP
Male adapter, barb fitting
You absolutely need the barb for vinyl or else you are going to have leaks.
Here's the hose clamps you need for the adaptor to make sure you have a tight enough seal:
Then you would have to insert PVC into those two ends, and then put a female adaptor on those two ends, and then a male adaptor barb fitting for that on both ends.
You absolutely need the barb for vinyl or else you are going to have leaks.
Here's the hose clamps you need for the adaptor to make sure you have a tight enough seal:
snakeblitz33
Well-Known Member
Isn't one of these better?
Does the same thing without the glue.
Does the same thing without the glue.
forcrz6
Member
Originally Posted by SnakeBlitz33
http:///forum/post/2941616
Don't take Forcrz advice, IMO. The easiest way to do it is your universal fitting with two hose clamps.
As far as I am concerned, you can not glue vinyl to pvc, it's two totally different chemical structures.
Yes you can. I have had to do this when Connecting 2 different size hoses for my RO/di They will work with the PVC glue.
http:///forum/post/2941616
Don't take Forcrz advice, IMO. The easiest way to do it is your universal fitting with two hose clamps.
As far as I am concerned, you can not glue vinyl to pvc, it's two totally different chemical structures.
Yes you can. I have had to do this when Connecting 2 different size hoses for my RO/di They will work with the PVC glue.
snakeblitz33
Well-Known Member
RO/DI units have no pressure.
Is it Flex tubing or is it vinyl tubing? You can pvc glue Flex tubing to my knowledge.
Vinyl tubing is made up of a whole other compound that PVC glue won't melt.
I'm going to find my cleaner and glue and some extra vinyl tubing and PVC so I can do the experiment myself to make sure I'm giving the right information. But, I am pretty sure that I am right.
Is it Flex tubing or is it vinyl tubing? You can pvc glue Flex tubing to my knowledge.
Vinyl tubing is made up of a whole other compound that PVC glue won't melt.
I'm going to find my cleaner and glue and some extra vinyl tubing and PVC so I can do the experiment myself to make sure I'm giving the right information. But, I am pretty sure that I am right.
saltn00b
Active Member
Originally Posted by SnakeBlitz33
http:///forum/post/2941650
Isn't one of these better?
Does the same thing without the glue.
easier , maybe. but i have to buy it online and pay shipping. so it is also about 10 bucks plus wait time.
PVC might not be as elegant , but i can do it tonight and for a fraction of the cost.
i was also under the impression the vinyl would not melt with PVC, hence all the barbs needed... thats why i asked
http:///forum/post/2941650
Isn't one of these better?
Does the same thing without the glue.
easier , maybe. but i have to buy it online and pay shipping. so it is also about 10 bucks plus wait time.
PVC might not be as elegant , but i can do it tonight and for a fraction of the cost.
i was also under the impression the vinyl would not melt with PVC, hence all the barbs needed... thats why i asked
forcrz6
Member
Originally Posted by SnakeBlitz33
http:///forum/post/2941677
RO/DI units have no pressure.
Is it Flex tubing or is it vinyl tubing? You can pvc glue Flex tubing to my knowledge.
Vinyl tubing is made up of a whole other compound that PVC glue won't melt.
I'm going to find my cleaner and glue and some extra vinyl tubing and PVC so I can do the experiment myself to make sure I'm giving the right information. But, I am pretty sure that I am right.
Well My RO/DI unit from my reserve tank does have a steady pressure.
This is what will happen.
Once connected the Vinyl tubeing will get super soft due to it is melting. But once cured it will stick. Now just like I posted above there are other options. He is not stuck with PVC glue.
All I can tell you is what has worked for me in the past. I am just going off my experience. I had to use 2 pieces of Vinyl tubeing to connect to a piece of PVC due to My local hardware store did not have the right size adaptor to connect my 2 Flex tubes. So I had to PVC firs the 2 flexs to the Vinyl then the vinyls to the PVC
All I know is that this has worked for me for over 2 years with no leak.
http:///forum/post/2941677
RO/DI units have no pressure.
Is it Flex tubing or is it vinyl tubing? You can pvc glue Flex tubing to my knowledge.
Vinyl tubing is made up of a whole other compound that PVC glue won't melt.
I'm going to find my cleaner and glue and some extra vinyl tubing and PVC so I can do the experiment myself to make sure I'm giving the right information. But, I am pretty sure that I am right.
Well My RO/DI unit from my reserve tank does have a steady pressure.
This is what will happen.
Once connected the Vinyl tubeing will get super soft due to it is melting. But once cured it will stick. Now just like I posted above there are other options. He is not stuck with PVC glue.
All I can tell you is what has worked for me in the past. I am just going off my experience. I had to use 2 pieces of Vinyl tubeing to connect to a piece of PVC due to My local hardware store did not have the right size adaptor to connect my 2 Flex tubes. So I had to PVC firs the 2 flexs to the Vinyl then the vinyls to the PVC
All I know is that this has worked for me for over 2 years with no leak.
snakeblitz33
Well-Known Member
You might could get an female FTP x FTP 1" to 3/4" reducer and buy a couple of male adaptor barb fittings for it.
I've seen those universal fittings at my local Home Depot for $4...
I've seen those universal fittings at my local Home Depot for $4...
snakeblitz33
Well-Known Member
The pressure from your main water line or from your output water? The pressure from the water line may have expanded the joints and sealed it, and the cemet is a filler.
Vinyl can't be PVC glued, hence all of the barbed fittings. It's easier just to get the barbed fittings then siliconing presurized lines. Then your asking for trouble.
Vinyl can't be PVC glued, hence all of the barbed fittings. It's easier just to get the barbed fittings then siliconing presurized lines. Then your asking for trouble.
forcrz6
Member
Originally Posted by SnakeBlitz33
http:///forum/post/2941725
The pressure from your main water line or from your output water?
Oh no, From the tank to the faucet.
The pressure from the water line may have expanded the joints and sealed it, and the cemet is a filler.
Vinyl can't be PVC glued, hence all of the barbed fittings. It's easier just to get the barbed fittings then siliconing presurized lines. Then your asking for trouble.
Very true. And I would agree with you 100% but the Vinyl became hard as a rock from the glue altering the make up and fusing it. To disconnect it I would have to litteraly cut the end off that I glued.
Either way there are other options.
I do agree with the Barbed fittings and the clamps. I was just giving alternatives that have worked for me.
http:///forum/post/2941725
The pressure from your main water line or from your output water?
Oh no, From the tank to the faucet.
The pressure from the water line may have expanded the joints and sealed it, and the cemet is a filler.
Vinyl can't be PVC glued, hence all of the barbed fittings. It's easier just to get the barbed fittings then siliconing presurized lines. Then your asking for trouble.
Very true. And I would agree with you 100% but the Vinyl became hard as a rock from the glue altering the make up and fusing it. To disconnect it I would have to litteraly cut the end off that I glued.
Either way there are other options.
I do agree with the Barbed fittings and the clamps. I was just giving alternatives that have worked for me.
snakeblitz33
Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by forcrz6
http:///forum/post/2941739
Oh no, From the tank to the faucet.
Very true. And I would agree with you 100% but the Vinyl became hard as a rock from the glue altering the make up and fusing it. To disconnect it I would have to litteraly cut the end off that I glued.
Either way there are other options.
I do agree with the Barbed fittings and the clamps. I was just giving alternatives that have worked for me.
It may have become hard, but that doesn't mean that it melted. Or if it melted with the cleaner, it can not be chemically bound with the cement.
If you are having trouble fitting a vinyl tube on a barbed fitting, put the end of the vinyl in some boiling hot water, and it will soften up. Vinyl gets hard over time with use anyway. So, if you have problems fitting that hard clear ID tube over the adaptor, get yah some boiling hot water to loosen it up. Once it cools off, it will get hard again.
http:///forum/post/2941739
Oh no, From the tank to the faucet.
Very true. And I would agree with you 100% but the Vinyl became hard as a rock from the glue altering the make up and fusing it. To disconnect it I would have to litteraly cut the end off that I glued.
Either way there are other options.
I do agree with the Barbed fittings and the clamps. I was just giving alternatives that have worked for me.
It may have become hard, but that doesn't mean that it melted. Or if it melted with the cleaner, it can not be chemically bound with the cement.
If you are having trouble fitting a vinyl tube on a barbed fitting, put the end of the vinyl in some boiling hot water, and it will soften up. Vinyl gets hard over time with use anyway. So, if you have problems fitting that hard clear ID tube over the adaptor, get yah some boiling hot water to loosen it up. Once it cools off, it will get hard again.
snakeblitz33
Well-Known Member
lol, cigar lighter works well too, I like boiling water though. lol.