Reef with Ich

[jon20542]

Lost all previous fish from the ich. Waited 30+ days before slowly reintroducing new fish, 3 weeks later purple tank showed signs and now others are dying. I have a 150 gal tank with 20+ corrals all all healthy and happy. temp and salinity are right, water quality is perfect. I cannot remove these fish from this tank, all I can do is remove the bodies if anything at all. I wonder if you might tell me if the ich can stay dormant in the live sand and for how long? I feel like a killer and am considering not replacing any fish, unless, you reccommend ant that are ich resistant.

 

[kev]

GREAT TANK!! Do you have a QT tank? If you don't, I would go out and get one asap. Your right about leaving the tank fishless for 30 days(this will kill off the ick.) If you didn't QT your new fish after the 30 days, then that is the cause of your problems. Did yu take all the fish bodies out of the water(if not, maybe the ick was multiplying on the corpses?)? Your gonna need to take out all of your fish and move them to a QT tank, to treat with either copper or hypo. QT tanks are cheap(mine was less than $30) and they will save you alot of headache. HTH

 

[beth]

Yes, ich can remain dormant in sand and rock, but, most likely, you brought the ich back into the tank with the new fish. I would leave your main tank fishless for 2 mos. In the meantime, set up a QT and, from now on, QT your fish before placing them in the main tank.
Tangs are know as "ich magnets" in the hobby, so you may want to avoid them.

 

[phishman1]

I don't have a reef tank. But a fish tank, with inverts, etc. quarantined a clown for 5 days, treated it with greenex in quarantine, acclimated it, water quality great, dottyback spotless, small damsel spotless, snails, shrimp, wrasse, spotless, but now clown has ich spots...I know how you feel, I thought getting the water correct and balancing everything was the tough part, all of a sudden I am ready to throw in the towel

 

[sterling]

Ok, I'm probably going to get in trouble for this.....has anyone tried "No Ick", by FishVet? I'm not advertising for this company, I haven't tried their products, but I've talked to the fellow, Dr. Prescott, who is one of the developers of this and something called "No Cyano". He says both products are totally reef safe. That he uses them in his own reef tank.
Who wants to be the first to test it??

 

[sterling]

Ok, I get it. What was the outcome? did it kill inverts etc, or just didn't work.

 

[wingnut]

there is a product called kick ich it works and is REEF SAFE useing a diffrent actice chemical no copper ive used it befor and i like it beats trying to catch a fish in a big reef (done it to many times) it dose work you just cant over dose the tank follow dertions well?
then you will be fine im not sure who its made buy

 

[pstanley]

I agree with Anthem...I tried kick ich and it did not work at all for me. It cleared the spots up for about two days but that was it. I ended up throwing the whole bottle in the garbage (at it was not cheap).

 

[jlem]

I do believe reef safe meds do work if you dose according to your tanks actual gallons. You have to take in to account the glass and the rock and anything else that isn't water to dose correctly. not many people have success with hypo or copper either due to the fact that both require precise measurments. Hypo and copper are proven but you very rarily hear of either working on any boards that I know of because people do them wrong. I used to get ich quite abit until I started using Garlic. I also got alot of well established rock and increased water changes in smaller quantities, so I am sure that these helped my tanks water quality also. I did a web search for Thereeftank and got a great article done by a researcher on Garlic and ich. It explained why Garlic is so effective against Ich ( there's some research for you Anthem ).
http://www.reefs.org/library/article...tes-jorge.html ( I think )

 

[jlem]

TerryB. I would bett that if you did a search on all of the boards that you frequent that there would be more threads on( help with hypo it didn't work )or (I have had my salinity at 1.012 is this low enough) than threads like ( Wow hypo worked ). You your self even state how precise the salinity or specific gravity has to be in order to be successful. I agree that if done right that hypo works wonderfully like you said, and that opinion is from mostly reading your threads explaining to people what went wrong or helping people mid way through treatments. My only point was that from the post that I have read lots of people fail at hypo because of doing it wrong. As far as the boards I visit, I assume that they are the same as yours since they are big to. You made it sound like I said that garlic was a cure. Never did I call it a cure.

 

[jlem]

After reading other of your threads to see if your reply was an isolated case I have came to the conclusion that you either read to fast to get what a person was saying or you just read it wrong. Did I ever say that hypo and copper were not effective and did I ever say that meds are more effective than hypo. Read slower before you try and make somebody look Stupid. You are out of your league if you think you can tear down what I say since I never claim what I say to be fact and always state only my opinion. I unlike you realize that opinions are all we have and are entitled to on this board. You say most people who try hypo or copper has failed with reef meds. Maybe they failed because they did it wrong. Yes Anthem it is possible to do a reef safe wrong and then do hypo wrong to. So why don't you think about it before you type away next time.

 

[doubledown]

I wanted to let everyone know that my hypo has appeared to be successful. I have all my fish (2 perc's, 2 gobies, sailfin tang, domino damsel, 2 yellow tailed damsels, cleaner wrasse and a long nose hawkfish all in a 30 g quarantine. My question is I used a swing arm hydrometer for 17 days before getting a refractometer and it appears the salinity was really about 1.011 and I have now lowered ot to 1.009,, do I need to start the clock over?
There is also a lot of algae starting to grow.. can I put some snails from my display tank in the Q tank?
Thanks for all the initial advice, it really helped me save all my family members!