regal tang
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"Popeye" is caused by either injury to the eye, or a bacterial infection in the eye. I would suggest you do a water change.
Check to see if the fish is being harrassed by anyone else. Do this so that the fish don't notice that you're watching, else they won't behave normally. Watch for this frequently throughout the course of a day, as harrassment is not always constant, nor is it always obvious. Use a magnifying glass so you can get a close look at your fish. Look for signs of disease all over.
If you have zoe or zeocon or can get it from the LFS, then use it in your fish food [good immune boaster]. Hold off on meds right now, til we can decide if it is an injury or a disease. In the meantime, you need to get that hospital tank ready!
Report back tomorrow for further developments.
Check to see if the fish is being harrassed by anyone else. Do this so that the fish don't notice that you're watching, else they won't behave normally. Watch for this frequently throughout the course of a day, as harrassment is not always constant, nor is it always obvious. Use a magnifying glass so you can get a close look at your fish. Look for signs of disease all over.
If you have zoe or zeocon or can get it from the LFS, then use it in your fish food [good immune boaster]. Hold off on meds right now, til we can decide if it is an injury or a disease. In the meantime, you need to get that hospital tank ready!
Report back tomorrow for further developments.
mrswv1956
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ok i am getting the hospital tank ready .but i think it is disease,because it has white spots again and is rubbing on coarls,also noticed some of the other fish rubbing but dont see anything on them yet,so i am going to set up two hospital tanks a 10 gal,and a 5 and a half this is all i have to put them in and i know that the 5 and half is to small for them so i figured i would put my 3 big fish in the 10 which is the fox tang,yellow tang, & and another tang not sure what kind he is though.then in the small tank i will put my regal and angel & three demsels in it they are all small do u think this is ok.figured i would just treat all of them what do u think,i did do a water change also tested my water everything seems ok my ph is 8.3 no nitrites and no amonia.i;ll wait to hear from you before i transfer my fish.i hate to lose these fish i have done so well for someone who just started,but i took my time and waited till my tank was ready the only thing i did wrong was not putting them in another tank 4 two weeks before putting in main tank dum i know,a mistake i wont make again. mrswv1956
So, you think you are dealing with ICK again?? Sometimes, fish will get cloudy eyes as a prelude to a parasite infestation.
Do you have LR and LS in your main tank. I tried following your previous posts so that I could get some info on your tank, and all I saw was that you had inverts.
Do you have LR and LS? What type of inverts? What I'm thinking is that if all you have are crabs and shrimp, then you can move them over to the QT and leave your fish where they are at---then do hyposalinity. Give me your tank specs so I can know how to advise you.
I know you said you don't know how to do hypo, but we can walk you through it, and it is easy. But you cannot use it if you have LS, LR or inverts. Can we move your inverts to the QT, rather than moving the fish??
Do you have LR and LS in your main tank. I tried following your previous posts so that I could get some info on your tank, and all I saw was that you had inverts.
Do you have LR and LS? What type of inverts? What I'm thinking is that if all you have are crabs and shrimp, then you can move them over to the QT and leave your fish where they are at---then do hyposalinity. Give me your tank specs so I can know how to advise you.
I know you said you don't know how to do hypo, but we can walk you through it, and it is easy. But you cannot use it if you have LS, LR or inverts. Can we move your inverts to the QT, rather than moving the fish??
mrswv1956
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ok beth i have a horseshoe crab,a long spined sea-urchin,2 choclate chip star fish,& 2 flamed scallops,2 anemones.I have no LR or LS.and yes i am pretty sure it is ick the regal has white stuff all over it,and is rubbing and i have seen some of the others rubbin too,but none of them are acting funny they are, all eating good & everything.Mrswv1956
I think it might be better to move the inverts into a 10gal [or both the 10 and 5], rather than moving the fish, because you have too many fish to cram into a 10 and 5 gal. You will need to also move some of your gravel into the smaller tanks for your inverts, and will need to provide lighting for your anemones. Its a difficult call, as moving any animal is a stressful event. Use water from your existing tank [as long as that water has not been medicated] to seed your smaller temporary tanks. Watch water quality closely to ensure well-being of inverts and be prepared to do water changes. Marke sure that the temp and PH is exactly what is in your main tank. Inverts are extremely sensitive to changes.
Hpyosalinity: Over the course of the next 2 days, drop your salinity in your fishes' tank down to 1.009. Continue to feed the fish garlic soaked food. Hyposalinity will have to continue for 3 weeks AFTER all signs of ick are gone. Once the ick is gone, and you have waited the 3 weeks, then you can raise the salinity back to normal levels, over the course of a week. If all is well, then return your tank to normal conditions by returning the inverts home.
There are many topics here on hyposalinity if you will use the search feature here on the BB. You can read while you begin the process. [Don't forget to feed your inverts!]
Good luck!
[ August 14, 2001: Message edited by: Beth ]
Hpyosalinity: Over the course of the next 2 days, drop your salinity in your fishes' tank down to 1.009. Continue to feed the fish garlic soaked food. Hyposalinity will have to continue for 3 weeks AFTER all signs of ick are gone. Once the ick is gone, and you have waited the 3 weeks, then you can raise the salinity back to normal levels, over the course of a week. If all is well, then return your tank to normal conditions by returning the inverts home.
There are many topics here on hyposalinity if you will use the search feature here on the BB. You can read while you begin the process. [Don't forget to feed your inverts!]
Good luck!
[ August 14, 2001: Message edited by: Beth ]
mrswv1956
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ok thanks beth,so it takes three weeks total,after u drop the salinity right,and do i drop it bye just changing the water with some fresh, and how much should i do the first time my tank is 55 gal . i will use the search feature and tried to find some of these answers too .ty very much u done know what a big help you are to me.mrswv1956
No, this will be approx a month long process. The timeframe is: 3 weeks AFTER all signs of ick are gone, then, raise the saline back to normal over the course of 5 days or so, then return fish to tank.
That is:
Take 2 days to reduce the saline to 1.009 [start off with a gal]
Once the fish have no sign of ick--then start counting the 3 weeks of hypo [this is a conservative measure to ensure the erradification of ick]
Following the 3 wks, begin raising the saline to normal levels slowly.
If all is well, put your tank back together.
Feed with garlic.
That is:
Take 2 days to reduce the saline to 1.009 [start off with a gal]
Once the fish have no sign of ick--then start counting the 3 weeks of hypo [this is a conservative measure to ensure the erradification of ick]
Following the 3 wks, begin raising the saline to normal levels slowly.
If all is well, put your tank back together.
Feed with garlic.
mrswv1956
Member
you mean to return inverts to tank dont you not fish,because don;t i leave the fish in the tank while dropping the salinity.and i changed about 4 and a half gal.is this ok.and i;m feeding my inverts my sea urgent likes lettuce not sure about what to feed the anemones and i;m feeding the horseshoe crab ,crab bites,my starfish also likes lettuce. mrswv1956
mrswv1956
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and do i drop it a little bit every few hours or just drop it so much the first day then drop it the rest of the way the 2nd day i know i must sound stupid but i went to the search feature aand couldnt find out to much maybe i just dont know how to search for it i dont know, sorry to be such a nusance.
mrswv1956
mrswv1956
It will be at least 4 wks before you return the inverts to the main tank.
5 gals for the first day is fine. You can finish dropping the salinity down to 1.009 over the next 36 hrs.
Without knowing what anemone you have it is hard to advise. If feeding the anemone, best to do this about once a wk [or less]. Brine shrimp or a well blended preparation of fresh seafood. Don't overfeed!
A good book for you to get would be Bob Fenner's "The Conscienious Marine Aquarist".
5 gals for the first day is fine. You can finish dropping the salinity down to 1.009 over the next 36 hrs.
Without knowing what anemone you have it is hard to advise. If feeding the anemone, best to do this about once a wk [or less]. Brine shrimp or a well blended preparation of fresh seafood. Don't overfeed!
A good book for you to get would be Bob Fenner's "The Conscienious Marine Aquarist".
mrswv1956
Member
Its been 12 hrs since i did my first drop in salinity,so far so good all are acting pretty good still eating very good,they seem to really like the garlic soaked food,my regals eye looks almost normal tonight which tell me it must have been just hurt and not a disease right,the only thing i see different in them since i did the first drop is the regal, and the yellow tang are really rubbing now alot more then before,but my fox tang, & vermiculated angel,are doing fine and so is my other tang but then they didnt show no signs of disease anyway and nither did my three demsels.thought about dropping a little more tonight u think this is ok it is about 1.018 0r 1.017 now it was at 1t was about 1.025 before i started dropping i;m i doing ok so far. mrswv1956
Mrs, I think I am gettting confused with so many posts. You said you had ICK, right? Because that is what this treatment is for.
I didn't get to your post last night, but, as I said before, 5 gals that you did, was enough the first. Make small but more frequesnt dilutions to the tank.
How are the inverts doing in the other tanks?
I didn't get to your post last night, but, as I said before, 5 gals that you did, was enough the first. Make small but more frequesnt dilutions to the tank.
How are the inverts doing in the other tanks?
mrswv1956
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yes beth it is ick but remember i said my regal had a bad eye 4 a while and i wasn't sure what it was but its ok now.my inverts are doing well so far, have got my salinity down to 1.010 or 1.oo9 hard to read that guage some times,fish are eating good everything seems to be ok so far,but i do have one ? u said inverts dont get disease but can they carry disease, i mean when i buy a new one can i carry ick or something else to my tank? mrswv1956