Rights of the Media?

btldreef

Moderator
Tonight I had explosives set off on my front lawn at 2am and my car tampered with.
I blame the media, here's why.
 
A little unknown fact that I'll now have to share with you all so that you know why I blame the media:
How many of you have heard of the "Patchogue 7", referring to the seven teenagers that assaulted and murdered an Ecuadorian immigrant 2 years ago in Long Island, NY. The story made national headlines. The teens are accused and have admitted to assaulting hispanics simply because they were hispanic. There is a major illegal immigrant population in this area and until this incident, no light was being shed on it.
 
My brother in law happens to be one of those Patchouge 7. He was sentenced Wednesday.
 
When the story was first released, the local newspaper listed the addresses of each of these teens. Keep in mind that all of these boys were minors and still lived at home with families, some even in apartment complexes or two family homes. I am one of those that lives in a two family home, so not only did the newspaper post the address of this teenager, but ALSO of my home. I don't think they should be allowed to do this. What about those of us that still live in this house and had no part in this crime? Personally I think the little ba$tards should have been punished more severely, but that's neither here or there. Why do I have to be harassed at my own home?
 
Do you think that the media has a right to post addresses or ACCUSED criminals? At the time that the addresses were posted, they were all accused. What happened to innocent until proven guilty? And even once proven guilty, what about those who may still live at the address? We barely have anything to do with this family even though it's my husbands family other than living in the same 2 family home, but now the reporters harass me for comments on my way to work, we're mailed threats on a daily basis and this is not the first time someone has set something on fire on our front lawn.
 
So when we called 911 to tell them that someone had set off explosives on our front lawn and we feel that we are being targeted once again, the woman on the other end said, "Why do you feel that way?" So we responded, "Because someone from our address was just sentenced and it was in the paper." She then askes, "What for?"
Does it matter what for? Do we need to have an in depth conversation here. Fact is, $hit was lit on fire on my front lawn at 2am and my car was tampered with, send a damn cop over!
 

spanko

Active Member
Sorry to hear this. Tis the media looking for the story, and the unintended consequences that arise. I personally don't think the addresses of the minors should have been listed in the paper. Don't know if you may have some legal recourse here, invasion of privacy etc. but to get a lawyer involved will certainly cost some bucks.
 

mrdc

Active Member
Yeah, giving out addresses in a case like yours was reckless and dangerous IMO. Only an idiot would have to not think that the hispanics would be looking for a little payback.The media doesn't give two cents if you are guilty or innocent. I hate the way the paper splashes pictures of accused rape suspects and nothing on the accuser. I don't think names and especially pictures should be posted until the suspect is found guilty by the court.
 
What sentences did the boys receive?
 

btldreef

Moderator
We spoke to the lawyer. Unfortunately they have every right to post your address because someones address is a matter of public record. I still think that in a situation like this, it should have been left out because now anyone that lives in this house is a target for a bunch of dumb teenagers. One member of the family has ruined life in the homes of over 7 people. We've been told to not even let our dogs out alone, especially at night, and to be vigilant about any standing water as it may be poisoned. It's really scary. I can't wait for our house to be done so we can move away from this, the last 2 years have been absolute hell.
 
As for the boys sentences,
The one who stabbed the man received 25 years.
My brother in law, who punched the man, got 8 years.
One boy will not be sentenced until October, he is looking at a minimum of 5, maximum of 25. He is looking at al ittle more because he was also driving around shooting hispanic children with a bee bee gun earlier in this same week.
3 other boys were sentenced to 7 years, they all were involved with beating up hispanics, but didn't have weapons on them, so they all were sentenced the same way.
1 was sentenced to 6, but he has another case pending....
IMO, none of them got sentenced long enough. They were donig this for months. The boy who got sentenced to 6 years was out on probation at the time. He had been involved in a house robbery the year before in which someone was killed. The found the man that was killed on his lawn with his 2 year old sleeping on his chest, the little boy said, "Shhh, Daddy is sleeping right now." Very sad. These boys all need help.
 

mantisman51

Active Member
I do feel bad for you man. But do you think the local paper will now feature a story about illegal immigrant hate crime against legal citizens now? (he chuckles realizing how ludicrous the thought is cause only minorities can be victims)
 

reefraff

Active Member
So once the cops showed up what did they have to say?
 
As far as the "hard working people who are just here to do the work nobody else will do" it sounds like the kids might have taken out someone involved in one of the drug cartels. Can't imagine someone here to pick fruit or his friends having access to explosives.
 

bionicarm

Active Member
Having an address as of public record is one thing, publishing it in a local newspaper is another. I read about crimes like this in my local paper on a daily basis. I've NEVER seen an article where it shows an address of an accused assailant. All that is, is an invitation for reprisal and vigilantism. Now I've seen addresses listed where the crime has occurred. They also show pictures and names of assailants. But they don't state "The assailant Joe Smith lived with his family at 1515 Mockinbird Lane." If they're going to print that, they may as well follow it with the statement "Anyone wanting retribution on this jerk, be welcomed to visit this person at the address listed above." There are Invasion Of Privacy laws that can and will protect the accused. Find you one of these ambulance chasers that advertise on the back of phone books, or have these commercials on TV shouting "I WILL GET JUSTICE FOR YOU." I bet they'll jump all over this case and get you some form of settlement.
 

btldreef

Moderator
Quote:
Originally Posted by mantisman51 http:///forum/thread/379998/rights-of-the-media#post_3305435
I do feel bad for you man. But do you think the local paper will now feature a story about illegal immigrant hate crime against legal citizens now? (he chuckles realizing how ludicrous the thought is cause only minorities can be victims)
LOL .... Should be that way right. I have a feeling that I'm part of the reason my brother in law got involved with all this. A few years before this, I was being harassed while walking from a local parking lot to my job in downtown Patchogue by hispanic immigrants. It got really out of hand, but it was a group of them, so the cops couldn't pin point one person. It's really bad, a woman can not walk down the main streets of the town without being harassed. They'll walk right up and grab your a$$ as your walking. Lots of fun for me being all of 22 at the time. This infuriated my brother in law.....
 
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Originally Posted by reefraff http:///forum/thread/379998/rights-of-the-media#post_3305438
So once the cops showed up what did they have to say?
 
As far as the "hard working people who are just here to do the work nobody else will do" it sounds like the kids might have taken out someone involved in one of the drug cartels. Can't imagine someone here to pick fruit or his friends having access to explosives.
Cops stayed for little bit, but honestly what could they do? No one was still here and we had no proof of who did it?
Actually, it's been proven that he was part of the Ms-13 gang ... look that up and tell me if you'd be comfortable sleeping at my house at night now that they know where we all live.

 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bionicarm
http:///forum/thread/379998/rights-of-the-media#post_3305447
Having an address as of public record is one thing, publishing it in a local newspaper is another. I read about crimes like this in my local paper on a daily basis. I've NEVER seen an article where it shows an address of an accused assailant. All that is, is an invitation for reprisal and vigilantism. Now I've seen addresses listed where the crime has occurred. They also show pictures and names of assailants. But they don't state "The assailant Joe Smith lived with his family at 1515 Mockinbird Lane." If they're going to print that, they may as well follow it with the statement "Anyone wanting retribution on this jerk, be welcomed to visit this person at the address listed above." There are Invasion Of Privacy laws that can and will protect the accused. Find you one of these ambulance chasers that advertise on the back of phone books, or have these commercials on TV shouting "I WILL GET JUSTICE FOR YOU." I bet they'll jump all over this case and get you some form of settlement.
Yeah, I need to look into this more... Glad I have friends that are lawyers ... see it was good to be a smarty pants in high school and college, LOL
 

mrdc

Active Member
You in no way contributed to this. Your bro in law and his friends have no governor on their anger if they went after hispanics because you were harrassed. Now I say that but I would not be able to control my governor if someone did something to my family. However, I would not go after the race of the person(s) who messed with my family but I would do my best to inflict harm to the person(s) who did. I am super protective of my family!
 

bionicarm

Active Member
Sounds like a prime candidate for conceal/carry. They don't allow that in NY do they? Guess you could always carry a taser in your purse. Next time one of them walks up an harrasses you, smile, reach in your purse, grab the taser, and stick it in his crotch. Guarantee you he'll think twice the next time.
 

btldreef

Moderator
Quote:
Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/379998/rights-of-the-media#post_3305531
Sounds like a prime candidate for conceal/carry. They don't allow that in NY do they? Guess you could always carry a taser in your purse. Next time one of them walks up an harrasses you, smile, reach in your purse, grab the taser, and stick it in his crotch. Guarantee you he'll think twice the next time.
I actually have a full carry permit because I was stalked.... They do allow it in NY, it's just difficult to get.
 

mantisman51

Active Member
I have full conceal carry and open carry, because I'm a citizen of Arizona. ( ; That's all the permit you need here in the good ol' US of A. I feel for the folks who live in The People's Republic of America that most of the rest of the country has turned into. The illegals have more rights than you do. It is a sad state of affairs.
 
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