Rock rubble versus bio balls

groupergenius

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What do ya'll think of using rock rubble versus bio balls? I'm thinking of doing this in my CPR bakpak skimmer. Possibly in my Penguin 150 also. I'm thinking like they would be tiny refugiums??
 

coraljunky

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Thats what I did with my sump, replaced bios with rock and added live sand. Did this to my 90g and my 24g pod.
 
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essop3

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The only point of bio-balls are to increase surface area for bacteria. I use neither, just a lot of live rock. Well, there is rubble in my fuge but it's more for the pods than filtration.
If you need the extra surface area I'd go with rubble.
 

teen

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both LR rubble and bioballs can collect gunk that can lead to nitrate problems. id suggest using neither and just putting a decent amount of LR in your DT.
 

coral keeper

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Originally Posted by essop3
The only point of bio-balls are to increase surface area for bacteria. I use neither, just a lot of live rock. Well, there is rubble in my fuge but it's more for the pods than filtration.
If you need the extra surface area I'd go with rubble.
Hey essop3, i wana make a pod breeding tank too, how much sand, rock, or what ever is in your pod breeding tank and how big is your pod breeding tank? And is your sand big or tiny sand, and what kind of pumps do you use to pump them back to the main tank? Wont pumps kill the pods whean they go in the pump? Will a 10 gallon work as a pod breeding tank, it will be for the 20 gallon main tank?
 

ninjamini

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Originally Posted by teen
both LR rubble and bioballs can collect gunk that can lead to nitrate problems. id suggest using neither and just putting a decent amount of LR in your DT.

Although a refrigum with rocks is a great place for pod growth. Of course cheato does the same thing.
 

cam78

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Originally Posted by Coral Keeper
Can someone tell me what i need for a pod breeding tank? Im planning on a 10 gallon pod breeding tank.
If you just get a pile of LR rubble and place it in the rear corner of your DT you will be amazed how quickly your pod population will grow. I recently did this and I would have to say since then (two weeks) my pod population doubled. I see tons of them now.
 

coral keeper

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Well im want a mandarinfish so i cant just keep the pods in the main tank so ill need a seconed tank conected to the main tank.
 

cam78

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Originally Posted by Coral Keeper
Well im want a mandarinfish so i cant just keep the pods in the main tank so ill need a seconed tank conected to the main tank.
Well heres the thing. Pods will grow in that rubble but nothing will be able to eat them because of the the confined space. As more pods grow they will leave the rubble and replenish your tank. Just try it you will see, its crazy.
 

coral keeper

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Ok, ill put some rubble behind the tank and ill still make the pod breeding tank.
and did you buy a bag of pods or they were in the livesand and live rock?
 

coral keeper

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Ill put some rubble in the tank and make a 10 gallon pod breeding tank and there will be 1 pump conected from the pod breeding tank to the main and a nother pump from the pod breeding tank to the main tank.
 

coral keeper

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What size rubble do you use so that non of the fsh wouldent eat them? Or can you post the rubble your using for the pods and can the rubble be on your hand so i can see what size they are?
 

jonthefishguy

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I would decapsulate brine eggs and squirt them in the refugium and let them hatch out in there and then when i saw a few amphipods in there i squirted more and more and more and more and then placed a very tiny piece of shrimp in the mud and watch them all gather round in a feeding frenzy. Didnt take long before it was gone. Now I can say, there are thousands of little critters running around all over the place in the refugium, THE TRUE CLEANERS OF THE AQUARIUM.
 
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