Sea Lilly

sundance1

Member
My local fish store has a "sea lilly" it looks cool but I can't find any info on it.Can anybody give me any info?
 

sundance1

Member
Not yet,but soon.I know I shouldn't have,but I bought it! It has been at the shop for 5 weeks,so it must be in good shape.It was only $15.00
 

bdubbya

Member
That looks like a feather star. It is virtually impossible to keep and almost always die of starvation. Look up crinoid in the search feature or google it that should give you some info. Just recently there was a thread about starfish that was done by Ophiura (she has a degree in marine biology specializing in brittlestars). Hopefully that helps.
Good luck.
 

sundance1

Member
Did search on "feather stars".The info I found says they have 5 arms.This thing has between 20 and 25 arms.
 

fishieness

Active Member
it does look like a feather star, but i have seem these "sea lilies" im not sure, but i believe that they are similar to a feather duster.
 

sundance1

Member
This thing walks all over the tank(slowly)and went nuts when I put Marine Snow in the tank!In the middle,under side it has a mouth that looks kinda like a bunch of hairs.The arms seem to grab small(very small)pieces of food and puts it into the mouth.
 

ophiura

Active Member
Sea lilly = feather star = crinoid.
Feather stars do not necessarily have 5 arms. That information is incorrect. What is correct is the poor long term care.
Please research more. Most will die in captivity. I strongly discourage anyone keeping them. They are extremely sensitive, suffer a lot in shipping, and generally starve in all but large very mature reef tanks that have a lot of invertebrate larvae .
They feed using their tube feet...but this does not mean they are ingesting what you see them reacting too. Very few people have kept them long term...if it was as easy as stuff in a bottle, that would be a different story.
 

sundance1

Member
OK,thank you for the information,now,what do I do with this thing?What would be the best way to TRY to keep it alive?
 
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eaglefan

Guest
everything that ophiura is exactly what my lfs salesman told me when they had some in stock. Since I'm up there every other day he didn't want me to come back yellin. 1 out of a hundred plus survive. Good luck and keep us updated.
 

sundance1

Member
Will do.I was at the lfs store when they recieved this one.It came from a customer,I don't know how long he had it.It was doing well at the lfs for weeks,so I bought it.I'm sure at one time it was considered impossible to keep ANY marine animals.
 

fishieness

Active Member
Originally Posted by sundance1
Will do.I was at the lfs store when they recieved this one.It came from a customer,I don't know how long he had it.It was doing well at the lfs for weeks,so I bought it.I'm sure at one time it was considered impossible to keep ANY marine animals.
I think this is part of the problem, sure it was once considered impossible, but that was before we knew much about them. It is the same thing with flame scallops. They may take food, but it doesnt mean that they are injesting it. We dont know exactly what it eats. It is believed to eat invert larvae, something that we cannot produce enough of in a small aquarium.
 

harial

Member
Feather stars have extremely sensitive feeding habits. their needs to be A LOT of food and that food needs to be the correct type and size. what ever you feed them needs to be below 200 microns. They also prefer invert larvae and eggs. DTs Oyster eggs and rotifers are good choices for a feather star. However cyclopeeze, phyto and zooplankton are much to big for this animal. But like I said, one of the big problems is the fact that they need a lot of food, and on many occasions that amount of food will cause a massive algea outbreak and your trates and phostphates will be out of control. Starvation is the #1 killer of these animals so do as much research about them as you can on their diet. Ask around on different reef forums also.
Also someone mentioned flame scallops. My research shows that the feather star and the flame scallop have almost identical feeding habits. Rotifers and Oyster eggs seem to be the best food source that I have found.
 

shoreliner11

Active Member
Originally Posted by sundance1
Will do.I was at the lfs store when they recieved this one.It came from a customer,I don't know how long he had it.It was doing well at the lfs for weeks,so I bought it.I'm sure at one time it was considered impossible to keep ANY marine animals.
A few weeks or even a month is not a timescale to aquate good health of the animal. Many of them will look good for months but they are slowly starving. Don't think you're special in having a healthy looking crinoid, as I have personally seen a lot look healthy at a lfs for over a month. But, do try and listento the opinions of those who have more experience with the animal...especially ophiuria. Sorry if it came across as a flame, that was not my intention.
Aaron
 

sundance1

Member
No problem and I DO try to take their advise.I don't pretend to think I know better than the people on this board.This hobby,like many others,is trial and error.Its not like if this one dies I will rush out and get another.
 

ophiura

Active Member
Google "Rob Toonen Feather Stars" and the first thing that comes up should help...if there is any. I don't know that he still has this animal, but his message - that it is in a large mature reef system with refugium and loads of invertebrate larvae - is a good place to start. Harial is spot on in suggested things to feed, IMO.
 
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