Seahorse plans, questions, etc.

zeke92

Active Member
Can a kenya tree be a good hitch for seahorses? with the seahorses get hurt by the coral or will the coral get hurt by the horses? i've been studying for over a year now about caring for, breeding, raising seahorses and wanna start working on getting a tank going.
also, here is my shopping list so far.
protien skimmer
frozen mysis
live kelp and/or sea grass
50 gallon, tall, tank. tall is good correct?
live sand of course
how much live rock should i get?
my current 20 gallon i' working on will tunr into the refugium
live feeder shrimp?
i have brine shrimp already breeding in a bucket like mad
thermometer
i have a hydrometer
i have nets already
i think thats it but my mind is kinda blank
what am i missing that i absolutely have to have?
how much live rock should i get?
and, is tall tanks, better then wide tanks?
thanks in advance, thats all the questions i have for now.
 

monalisa

Active Member
Originally Posted by zeke92
Can a kenya tree be a good hitch for seahorses? with the seahorses get hurt by the coral or will the coral get hurt by the horses? i've been studying for over a year now about caring for, breeding, raising seahorses and wanna start working on getting a tank going.
also, here is my shopping list so far.
protien skimmer
frozen mysis
live kelp and/or sea grass
50 gallon, tall, tank. tall is good correct?
live sand of course
how much live rock should i get?
my current 20 gallon i' working on will tunr into the refugium
live feeder shrimp?
i have brine shrimp already breeding in a bucket like mad
thermometer
i have a hydrometer
i have nets already
i think thats it but my mind is kinda blank
what am i missing that i absolutely have to have?
how much live rock should i get?
and, is tall tanks, better then wide tanks?
thanks in advance, thats all the questions i have for now.
A Kenya tree coral will be fine with seahorses...rule of thumb is that corals that don't sting will be fine, kenya, mushrooms, zoas, colt coral, those types of things. This is assuming you're talking about medium sized horses. A 50 tall would be a great seahorse tank. The horses like to have the vertical space. In a 50, I would venture to guess that you could keep 6 (medium sized) horses...I may be wrong about that though. I would steer away from the dwarf of the species...definitely not for beggining sh keeping. It would be my recommendation to start out with 2 females before trying your hand at breeding.
Another thing to consider would be to have garlic to soak the horses food in...it's supposed to be great for their (and other fishes) immune systems, and it really makes their food attractive to them.
Be sure when purchasing your horses, that they are CAPTIVE bred and raised. Tank raised is kind of decieving in that they may have been bred in the wild, captured and raised until purchased. It's my opinion that if you get true captive bred horses, you shouldn't need the live brine. They will take to the frozen mysis.
Also, NO nets!! A seahorse can become seriously injured if transferred via a net. Use your hand or a glass or cup...this also reduces the stress of transfer.
Purchase of a refractometer is essential...hydrometers are really VERY inaccurate. When I got my refractometer, I measured the SG of my tank at the time. I had been sure that I was keeping my SG at 1.025-6...with the new refractometer it measured at 1.031!! YIKES!!
As far as sea grass and live algae, definitely a good thing for hitching and pods, but I've found that fake plants offer the same benefits without the maintenance (there's enough of that in a seahorse tank).
A last thought. After getting your set up going, be sure to cycle completely!!! In a tank of that size, I would think that at least 6 months, more if you can be patient.
There's so much...hope this helps, it just scratches the surface. Hopefully more will chime in to give you a hand...be patient and research what types of seahorses will be best in the system you're planning. I'm assuming that you know the lighting, temperature and aquascape differences in a seahorse tank compared to a reef...again, be patient!!! There's a segment in my thread where I explain how I did things...not that it's gospel, but it may give you some ideas... https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/t/273444/pics-of-my-girls
I forgot to add that I don't run a skimmer on my sh tank. On my 37gal, I run 2 Whisper filters, one 30 and one 40 which are filtering the equivalent of that for a 70 gal tank. Just an idea, and so far its worked for me. Don't forget sponge coverings over the intakes of your equipment. And also don't forget the twice/day feedings resulting in twice/week water changes (small changes).
I'm sure more will chime in here to help you out.
Lisa
 

zeke92

Active Member
yeah. when i first wanted to move into saltwater i wanted to try my hand at a SH tank and people quickly talked me into starting out small, and i thank them...
anyway, i've been studying them and stuff for about 6 months now.
if i were to use live sand, live rock, and some of the water from my 10 gal and 20 gal to help jumpstart it, would that kind of hurry up the cycling proccess or will it still be around 6 months?
and i forgot about the whole no net thing, been a while since i read about that. i better re-read alot before i get them to make sure i don't forget something else, hehe
thanks for your help!
 

darthtang aw

Active Member
The six month recommendation is so your Live rock and "critters" can propogate the tank fully. Also so the tank can balance out. Has nothing to do with the cycle.
Wouldn't matter if you got males or females or both. Breeding may occur, however raising the baby seahorses is difficult. This may sound harsh but if breeding isn't an interest for you adding a small fish would help keep the water from fouling when the have babies and they die off.
 

zeke92

Active Member
yeah i know the raising babeis is hard. ill prbably get 2 or so females to start out with. i'm not one of those that can easily kill an animal, even if it's tiny fish

i was thinking, would base rock, and then a bunch of branch rock on top be a good thing for seahorses, then they can have alo of rock to hitch on aswell? just a thought.
thanks for your help
 

monalisa

Active Member
Originally Posted by zeke92
i was thinking, would base rock, and then a bunch of branch rock on top be a good thing for seahorses, then they can have alo of rock to hitch on aswell? just a thought.
thanks for your help

The base and branch rock idea should work out okay...but bear in mind that horses really prefer softer hitches in the form of safe corals, vegetation, or fake vegetation. When I set up my tank, I put in 2 rather large pieces of coral skeleton that I regret having in the tank at this point. I'm working, very slowly at getting that out of the tank without upsetting my horses' environment too much. Be careful with what you landscape with and really think about it and ask questions regarding things like that. Work at getting it correct the first time so you don't have to worry about upsetting the apple cart, so to speak.
In a tank being set up for medium size horses (again, I'm assuming), LR will be essential for the propigation of pods.
Lisa
 
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