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clownfish11
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ooo no hope its not a double take..
mkzimms
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sounds like it could be either gas in the pouch if its a male seahorse or gas bubble disease. with pouch gas you will see the pouch kind of blown up like a balloon. you can remove the case by inserting a unrolled paperclip or other small thing into the pouch opening and massaging the gas out (NOTHING SHARP!)... i would recommend googling the procedure since ive never done it and i hear it can be tricky. gas bubble disease is a bacterial infection and can cause over inflation of the swim bladder causing the horse to have a hard time finding equilibrium and controlling its buoyancy. if caut early enough you can use paragon ii or any broad spectrum antibiotic. unfortunately from my reading treatment is not always successful. i have never had any diseases with my horses so i can not give you any more specific information about treatment, but i wish you luck.
ci11337
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the pouch of the horse does not look inflated, (can't even tell if it has a pouch or not.) The only medication i have is ich-x (its that greenish blueish chemical. Should i give him a dip in this? Or maybe a FW dip? It's so sad to see him suffer like this. and i am afraid the other horse will catch it. Why do these things always happen to me
mkzimms
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if the you cant even tell if there is a pouch i would say its probably not gas in the pouch (it would be pretty obvious), and since you haven't said anything about external signs it probably isn't external gas bubble disease either...so i would lean towards internal gas bubble disease.
the internal form is caused by one of two things, gas supersaturation or bacterial infection. if its bacterial infection it can be treated with antibiotics as i mentioned above. if its due to supersaturation the treatment process is tricky and involves keeping the seahorse at a depth around 4 times the tank height for a couple of days. its similar to the bends that human scuba divers get when nitrogen comes out of solution in the blood. so this is like putting the seahorse in a decompression chamber (high pressure) and bringing them back to normal pressure over the course of a few days.
im no seahorse disease expert (i did stay at a holiday inn last night), however i would treat for the bacterial version first. like i said ive never had to do either of these treatments, only information from what ive read.
hopefully some of the seahorse members who have first hand experience with these diseases can chime in on this.
the internal form is caused by one of two things, gas supersaturation or bacterial infection. if its bacterial infection it can be treated with antibiotics as i mentioned above. if its due to supersaturation the treatment process is tricky and involves keeping the seahorse at a depth around 4 times the tank height for a couple of days. its similar to the bends that human scuba divers get when nitrogen comes out of solution in the blood. so this is like putting the seahorse in a decompression chamber (high pressure) and bringing them back to normal pressure over the course of a few days.
im no seahorse disease expert (i did stay at a holiday inn last night), however i would treat for the bacterial version first. like i said ive never had to do either of these treatments, only information from what ive read.
hopefully some of the seahorse members who have first hand experience with these diseases can chime in on this.
ci11337
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The weird thing is this morning he was fine. At 6am he was swimming around perfectly normal (and i was very happy) but when i git home from school he was having trouble again. any explanation for this?
i attempted to post on the site u recommended T, but it wouldn't let me. from what i have read i should treat with diamox for the bacterial version but i don't think i can get that at my LFS. Does anyone know if met. blue could help?
i attempted to post on the site u recommended T, but it wouldn't let me. from what i have read i should treat with diamox for the bacterial version but i don't think i can get that at my LFS. Does anyone know if met. blue could help?
ci11337
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The SH has stopped having trouble swimming!!!! I treated him with ich-x and this seemed to help. he can now swim normally. I have noticed both horses seem alittle tired and are scratching and shaking alot. I don't see any parasites or anything but treated both of them with ich-x this morning.They are still eating well.
ci11337
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the bigger SH is back to normal now, but today the smaller one seemed very sluggish and i noticed some white growth on it. I''l probably treat it with meth blue again and if that dosen't work i'll get some sulfa. Since i think both problem are caused by bacteria i'm slowly bring the temp. down.
mkzimms
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what kind of white growth? does it look like a little white clump of grapes? that would be external gas bubble disease i believe. they will usually show up where there is thin skin like along the tail or behind the eyes. if thats the case you will have to pop them.
the only other white growths i have read about are Cryptobia, basically a flesh eating parasite. they're not common though.
the only other white growths i have read about are Cryptobia, basically a flesh eating parasite. they're not common though.
ci11337
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This morning when i got up for school the little one was floating and looked inflated. There was also more of the white stuff. I knew there was nothing i could do until i got home. When i did he looked awful, pieces of skin were missing, (the white stuff was a flesh eating bacteria) and he was floating. A few minutes later his tail curled up, his mouth opened and his gills stopped moving. I literally watched him die.
I think both horses got IGBD and only the bigger one was able to fight it off. The little one grew weak and got Cryptobia. The bigger horse still looks OK, i got him to eat and he seems to be swimming correctly. The LFS finally got in sulfa medication so i will probably go pick that up and treat him with it to kill any bacteria on him. I just hope he does ok on his own.
clownfish11
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OMG!!! dude thats terrible...you have the worst luck with those little guys....well hope the other one lives
RIP little guy
RIP little guy
