should i get live rock
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fshhub
Active Member
beginners really should have lr,
It makes the job much, much easier,to keep a healthy tank
and the skimmer will also help alot, but don't be mislead, you don't need a skimmer BECAUSE you have live rock
Sounds to me as if your lfs wants you to use cc and an undergravel filter, just by the lines he uses
well, FYI, if this is the case, cc and a ugf is not by far the best thing you can do for your little marine buddies
Do some research, before you take any advice from any lfs, most ofteeen their opinions don't reflect waht is best, but what is on their shelves
You did right by coming here and asking, this place is set up for people to share their experinces and help one another, and one thing you can bet on we have been through what we say, and we can not profit from advising you at all
It makes the job much, much easier,to keep a healthy tank
and the skimmer will also help alot, but don't be mislead, you don't need a skimmer BECAUSE you have live rock
Sounds to me as if your lfs wants you to use cc and an undergravel filter, just by the lines he uses
well, FYI, if this is the case, cc and a ugf is not by far the best thing you can do for your little marine buddies
Do some research, before you take any advice from any lfs, most ofteeen their opinions don't reflect waht is best, but what is on their shelves
You did right by coming here and asking, this place is set up for people to share their experinces and help one another, and one thing you can bet on we have been through what we say, and we can not profit from advising you at all
fshhub
Active Member
another note about live rock and anemones, if you are considering anemones, you
DEFINITELYWANT LR AND A GOOD SKIMMER
give us some more tank stats, if you would like help getting set for a reef with or without anemones
ie. size, substrate, filtration, lighting and so forth
If you haven't started yet, more info on what you would like, maybe we can save you alot of time and money, not to mention heartbreak, losing livestock hurts, because this hobby gets addicting and most people fall in love with their system, if you are a vet, I appologize for the assumption
DEFINITELYWANT LR AND A GOOD SKIMMER
give us some more tank stats, if you would like help getting set for a reef with or without anemones
ie. size, substrate, filtration, lighting and so forth
If you haven't started yet, more info on what you would like, maybe we can save you alot of time and money, not to mention heartbreak, losing livestock hurts, because this hobby gets addicting and most people fall in love with their system, if you are a vet, I appologize for the assumption
thor
Member
thanks everyone
I have live sand im going to get a dsb and an emperor 400 filter it was strange because she encouraged me not to get even though they sound excellent from what Ive heard on this site
I just found a good LFS clean tanks healthy active fish a whole bunch of different types coral anemones even live rock i also thought it strange she didnt want to get live rock so i got live sand instead is this good enough?
my fish are gonna be 1flame 2perculas 2jawfish 4firefish 1carpet anemone all in a 58g my tank is coming on sunday so i havent set it up yet
I have live sand im going to get a dsb and an emperor 400 filter it was strange because she encouraged me not to get even though they sound excellent from what Ive heard on this site
I just found a good LFS clean tanks healthy active fish a whole bunch of different types coral anemones even live rock i also thought it strange she didnt want to get live rock so i got live sand instead is this good enough?
my fish are gonna be 1flame 2perculas 2jawfish 4firefish 1carpet anemone all in a 58g my tank is coming on sunday so i havent set it up yet
wrigley11
Member
Get the lr... it actually is not that expensive when you compare it to other decorations that you will have to put into your tank.
Also... if it is over $4 a pound at you lfs don't buy it. You can always find the stuff online for under $4 a pound with shipping.
Also 2-day shipping is always fine with this stuff... you'll have to cycle it in the tank anyways.
Also about your protein scimmer question... you can make one yourself with a pump and some pvc pipe. It will not run you anywhere near $150... For you tank though I would just buy a backpak... you can usually find them new online for around 110 -125...
Hope that helps - what was the other question?
Also... if it is over $4 a pound at you lfs don't buy it. You can always find the stuff online for under $4 a pound with shipping.
Also 2-day shipping is always fine with this stuff... you'll have to cycle it in the tank anyways.
Also about your protein scimmer question... you can make one yourself with a pump and some pvc pipe. It will not run you anywhere near $150... For you tank though I would just buy a backpak... you can usually find them new online for around 110 -125...
Hope that helps - what was the other question?
fshhub
Active Member
a bakpak is a type of skimmer, made by CPR
and you would be much better off with this , ls and lr than an Emorer 400, we have an Emporer, which only is used for circulation(no filters in or bio wheels on)), and the occasional addition of carbon, but you can buy purchase a couple of good powerheads for the same price to get better circulation
as for the anemone they are extremely difficult past a few months so you may wish to wait a little while, vets with as much as 5 yrs exp. often have little luck achieving a year maybe 20% go beyond this and anemones have a life span beyond ours)
true perculas like
Host Anemones:
Heteractus magnifica ~ Magnificent sea anemone.
Stichtodactyla gigantea ~ Gigantic sea anemone.
Stichtodactyla crispa ~ Leathery sea anemone.
or false peculas like
Host Anemones:
Heteractus magnifica ~ Magnificent sea anemone.
Stichtodactyla gigantea ~ Gigantic sea anemone.
Stichtodactyla mertensii ~ Merten's sea anemone.
this does not mean that they won't take to a different type, or even a soft coral, they will even do well without any, also carpets, depending on species, have a known diet which includes shrimp and small fish(including tank mates), so choose your anemone wisely, and research thoroughly and then research again before you purchase one
and you would be much better off with this , ls and lr than an Emorer 400, we have an Emporer, which only is used for circulation(no filters in or bio wheels on)), and the occasional addition of carbon, but you can buy purchase a couple of good powerheads for the same price to get better circulation
as for the anemone they are extremely difficult past a few months so you may wish to wait a little while, vets with as much as 5 yrs exp. often have little luck achieving a year maybe 20% go beyond this and anemones have a life span beyond ours)
true perculas like
Host Anemones:
Heteractus magnifica ~ Magnificent sea anemone.
Stichtodactyla gigantea ~ Gigantic sea anemone.
Stichtodactyla crispa ~ Leathery sea anemone.
or false peculas like
Host Anemones:
Heteractus magnifica ~ Magnificent sea anemone.
Stichtodactyla gigantea ~ Gigantic sea anemone.
Stichtodactyla mertensii ~ Merten's sea anemone.
this does not mean that they won't take to a different type, or even a soft coral, they will even do well without any, also carpets, depending on species, have a known diet which includes shrimp and small fish(including tank mates), so choose your anemone wisely, and research thoroughly and then research again before you purchase one
fishfood
Member
be carefull with a carpet anemone. Years back when I was in highschool and my dad was supporting the tank that my brother and i wanted he bought this awsome looking blue carpet anemone. Back then i didn't do much research and neither did he. Well all but one of our fish happened to disappear within a week. We took it back to the store.
As everyone else said get the lr. Maybe the lfs was just trying to discourage you from getting into corals at this point because of lack of exp. The lr will help with filtration and coral can be added when you learn more about reef tanks and when you have the proper set-up.
As everyone else said get the lr. Maybe the lfs was just trying to discourage you from getting into corals at this point because of lack of exp. The lr will help with filtration and coral can be added when you learn more about reef tanks and when you have the proper set-up.