smoking and saltwater tanks
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melypr1985
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dont take me as an expert but, when I worked at ***** (i know i know) they would say that nicotene(spelling?) can kill the fish. apparently it's toxic to them. so they would tell you that you had to wash your hands after smoking with soap and hot water. see anythign wrong with that? You can't wash your hands with soap then put them in the fish tanks. So, after being a smoker and taking care of their fish tanks and mine I've found that nothing will happen. Although, I dont recomend blowing your smoke right across the top of the water or in a straw in the water, but I dont think anything will happen to them if you smoke a cigg then do some maintenance. i've also asked this question to other smokers in the hobby in my area and they tend to agree. This is just my 2 cents worth and I'm sure other people have differing oppinions.
loopy101
Member
i agree im sure it wouldnt be a good thing to blow the smoke right into or onto the water. but just thought this could be a interesting topic to talk about. and if there is something major that could happen from the smoke in the tank it might help many of us hobbiest out a little.
cranberry
Active Member
I don't buy it... I mean if you had 30 people in a non-ventilated closed room smoked continuously, that might be a problem.... but actually 30 people in a closed room in itself can be a problem and has been implicated in pH drops from increased environmental CO2.
If someone does a search it would be interesting to see at want studied levels the nicotine had to be at to cause a problem and what had to be done to cause a level such as that.
If someone does a search it would be interesting to see at want studied levels the nicotine had to be at to cause a problem and what had to be done to cause a level such as that.
melypr1985
Member
yeah, we've had poker games and everybody smokes. In my little appartment with two tanks right next to us that have no lids or canopys. nothing happened to them then, so I really dont think it will if i smoke then put my hand in the water. or it hasn't yet.
that would be interesting cranberry. I wonder if there has been any studies like that. I will search.
that would be interesting cranberry. I wonder if there has been any studies like that. I will search.
melypr1985
Member
this is what I found. i copy and pasted it from my yahoo search.
Often hobbyists are worried about the effects of nicotine and tar that enter the air as a by-product of cigarette, pipe and cigar smoking, and transfer to the water, as we have seen in the airborne pollution section.
The dangers associated with such compounds are real, but are completely neutralized by the use of Poly Filters and/or activated carbon. They should not be a cause for concern if chemical filtration is used, especially if you also pre-filter the air that your pump blows into the filter and into the water.
Cigarette butts thrown in your tank, for example while you have guests, will however do considerable damage
Often hobbyists are worried about the effects of nicotine and tar that enter the air as a by-product of cigarette, pipe and cigar smoking, and transfer to the water, as we have seen in the airborne pollution section.
The dangers associated with such compounds are real, but are completely neutralized by the use of Poly Filters and/or activated carbon. They should not be a cause for concern if chemical filtration is used, especially if you also pre-filter the air that your pump blows into the filter and into the water.
Cigarette butts thrown in your tank, for example while you have guests, will however do considerable damage
melypr1985
Member
Oh... I didn't think about that. I just searched on yahoo and found some info and copy and pasted it. sorry. it was an article talking about carbon dioxcide and it had a paragraph that refrenced nicotine from smoking. I guess next time i will just post the link. Sorry again.
cranberry
Active Member
Did you read that as snotty? It totally wasn't. Research is a part of my job, but I hope I don't come off as a Research Nazi.
I have no doubt these things can affect your tank. But is the number of lite cigarettes required to create a negative affect realistic? 50 people smoking, crammed in a 5' x 5' room, with a tank will have an affect (let's say), but is that scenario even plausible enough to be worried about?
I have no doubt these things can affect your tank. But is the number of lite cigarettes required to create a negative affect realistic? 50 people smoking, crammed in a 5' x 5' room, with a tank will have an affect (let's say), but is that scenario even plausible enough to be worried about?
melypr1985
Member
oh no! i didn't think you were being snotty at all. I just thought that my info wasn't really all that helpful. I realized that I got something that wasn't really what we wanted. I've never been good at doing searches online. I always get online stores and never any real info.
aquaknight
Active Member
I would agree that smoking, at least in the traditional sense you're referring to, does no harm directly. I can say that it might have some indirect affects. When my old roommate would have family over, they always smoked. So when they'd stayed for the weekend, we'd have smoking all weekend. What it did was kill my skimmer. It wouldn't build a foam head at all.
Grant the skimmer was an Aqua C EV-240 which are very sensitive anyways. Stick your arm in the tank, the tower collapses. I think a change in the breeze killed the skimmer too
. But anyways, since the skimmer was dead for the weekend, I generally saw a mild rise in the levels. Nitrates would go from undetectable to like .5 or 1
I'd do a larger water change for that week, and everything be back gravy.
Just some 2¢.
Grant the skimmer was an Aqua C EV-240 which are very sensitive anyways. Stick your arm in the tank, the tower collapses. I think a change in the breeze killed the skimmer too
Just some 2¢.
flower
Well-Known Member
Smoke is bad for all living things. Nicotine settles on everything...the lungs, the fingers, the walls, the cloths, and the fish tank as well.
As proof... take a damp paper towel and run it across any surface in a smoker’s house. Anything that slims up the walls and everything else in the room that bad, is getting into the fish tank.
Will it kill the fish???...
OR
If the owner is a non-smoker, they can demand that the smokers not smoke around their fish tank, and save the smell and yuck from being in their house for them to have to clean off the walls, and try and breath through the second hand smoke.
No smoking in the house is win...win for all the living things in it. JMO
loopy101
Member
Hi Flower
while everyone has there own thoughts and opions on smoking that is there right we all know it can be harmful to us. but still its up to us if we decide to smoke or not and the affects it CAN cause. This would be another whole topic to talk about.
I am more looking for affects that it has on saltwater tanks just for the fact of the hear say ive always heard about but havent seen any facts on it. After a bad or long day i love to go home mix a drink and enjoy a cig and stare into the tank. never noticed any ill affects so got me to thinking if this was myth or fact! while i do agree that if a person was to throw a cig but into the tank or even blow smoke into tank this could cause very negative results but for the average smoker i havent noticed any results but ive never kepted a tank completely away from smoke so i dont know the other side of it... going to be gone all day today but late tonight or tomorrow morning will do some searches on this. thanks for every ones thoughts!
while everyone has there own thoughts and opions on smoking that is there right we all know it can be harmful to us. but still its up to us if we decide to smoke or not and the affects it CAN cause. This would be another whole topic to talk about.
I am more looking for affects that it has on saltwater tanks just for the fact of the hear say ive always heard about but havent seen any facts on it. After a bad or long day i love to go home mix a drink and enjoy a cig and stare into the tank. never noticed any ill affects so got me to thinking if this was myth or fact! while i do agree that if a person was to throw a cig but into the tank or even blow smoke into tank this could cause very negative results but for the average smoker i havent noticed any results but ive never kepted a tank completely away from smoke so i dont know the other side of it... going to be gone all day today but late tonight or tomorrow morning will do some searches on this. thanks for every ones thoughts!
xcali1985
Active Member
Originally Posted by melypr1985
http:///forum/post/3124032
this is what I found. i copy and pasted it from my yahoo search.
Often hobbyists are worried about the effects of nicotine and tar that enter the air as a by-product of cigarette, pipe and cigar smoking, and transfer to the water, as we have seen in the airborne pollution section.
The dangers associated with such compounds are real, but are completely neutralized by the use of Poly Filters and/or activated carbon. They should not be a cause for concern if chemical filtration is used, especially if you also pre-filter the air that your pump blows into the filter and into the water.
Cigarette butts thrown in your tank, for example while you have guests, will however do considerable damage
Reference Link: http://www.netpets.com/fish/referenc...ielbook5e.html
Used google with the direct quote you used. The funny thing is that this post itself was the first entry. LOL
http:///forum/post/3124032
this is what I found. i copy and pasted it from my yahoo search.
Often hobbyists are worried about the effects of nicotine and tar that enter the air as a by-product of cigarette, pipe and cigar smoking, and transfer to the water, as we have seen in the airborne pollution section.
The dangers associated with such compounds are real, but are completely neutralized by the use of Poly Filters and/or activated carbon. They should not be a cause for concern if chemical filtration is used, especially if you also pre-filter the air that your pump blows into the filter and into the water.
Cigarette butts thrown in your tank, for example while you have guests, will however do considerable damage
Reference Link: http://www.netpets.com/fish/referenc...ielbook5e.html
Used google with the direct quote you used. The funny thing is that this post itself was the first entry. LOL
melypr1985
Member
Yup! that's where I found it! Good job!