Snake ID (Pics)

aquaknight

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I think I've done enough fish ID's to warrant one of my own.

Found it at the local fishing hole (Econlockhatchee River in Orlando). Just wondering what it is? Spent some time on google and think it might be a Florida Brown Watersnake.

 

aquaknight

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Thanks guys. Yea, definitely think it's a Florida Banded Water Snake. Apparently a lot of them are unjustly killed because they look somewhat familiar to water moccasins. Water moccasins are in the Viper family, so they have a much more triangular shaped head, with a upward, sharply pointed nose, I believe?
Are Water Snakes ever kept as pets? I think it would be really cool to setup like a 75 with land on most of one side, then have a little sloped area into a small pool to keep a couple of FW feeder fish? I believe they stay pretty small? About 4 foot or so?
 

chilwil84

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a 75 would be a great setup. setup a dry side and a wet side with a piece of wood on the wet side that allows for the snake to get out of the water and get up on the dry side. this way looks better but requires more maintaince to clean the water. otherwise you could just put a rubbermade container in it, i have had no problems getting snakes to find feeder fish in a bowl. add frogs to their diet to get a more balanced diet for it.
 

groupergenius

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Originally Posted by AquaKnight
http:///forum/post/2791062
Thanks guys. Yea, definitely think it's a Florida Banded Water Snake. Apparently a lot of them are unjustly killed because they look somewhat familiar to water moccasins. Water moccasins are in the Viper family, so they have a much more triangular shaped head, with a upward, sharply pointed nose, I believe?
Are Water Snakes ever kept as pets? I think it would be really cool to setup like a 75 with land on most of one side, then have a little sloped area into a small pool to keep a couple of FW feeder fish? I believe they stay pretty small? About 4 foot or so?
The biggest one I have found was about 2.5'. Fat and mean as heck. The teeth these snakes have are geared towards catching fish and slimy stuff.
IOW, very big and sharp. The bigger snakes can really put a gash on ya and the anti-coagulant (sp) in their saliva makes it bleed for a good while.
Not a very good pet as in handling occasionaly. I would go with a Red Rat in a drier setting.
 

aquaknight

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Thanks for the replies guys. Yea, he was only a foot or so long, and not much thicker then a medium pen, he did definitely didn't like being bumped with a sandal. So yea, I can imagine to occasionally be around and working with, wouldn't be the best idea. I'm not the biggest snake guy to begin with, but the idea of a full terrarium setup, with a large dry area and a large pond, is really cool.
I can see I could setup a tank, where I'd add a drain to the pond, so having my hands, etc, would be at a minimum, just to add food/clean up I guess. But don't snakes have to visit the vets (or a snake specific veterinarian, forgetting the term) every so often? I know people with boas and pythons are in there all the time. Or do people with exotic/highly venomous species just let nature take it's course? Or sort of what we do for fish, just post images/videos, and try to expert advise from those? A pet store back home, had a king cobra. I can imagine the vet doesn't feel around him like a python?
Though this is really just an idea for down the road. I just re-setup my 5th fish tank (a fw this time) and if I do a snake, I think my roommates are going to walk out on me.
 

rotarymagic

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Taking reptiles to the vet is ---- at best... Treating a burn and a respiratory infection on a snake (a ball python I've had for 14 years or else nature would have taken its course) I let someone watch while I was out of town (this is always happens) was $650...
Do poison dart frogs, colorful, harmless, eat flies or pinhead crickets, social, and DIURNAL!!!! Like saltwater fish minus the water changes. I keep alot of them, they're great.
 

nw2salt08

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Originally Posted by AquaKnight
http:///forum/post/2791062
Thanks guys. Yea, definitely think it's a Florida Banded Water Snake. Apparently a lot of them are unjustly killed because they look somewhat familiar to water moccasins. Water moccasins are in the Viper family, so they have a much more triangular shaped head, with a upward, sharply pointed nose, I believe?
Are Water Snakes ever kept as pets? I think it would be really cool to setup like a 75 with land on most of one side, then have a little sloped area into a small pool to keep a couple of FW feeder fish? I believe they stay pretty small? About 4 foot or so?
And yes, you are correct about the difference between a water moccasin and a water snake. We have a lot of them here in Oklahoma...if you ever question a snake, just respect it and back away. Water snakes could be kept as pets but be careful, they can become aggressive closer to a feeding time.
 

gsellers

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yeah the 4 key factors to look for a poisonus snake is
1. rough scales
2. eliptical eyes
3. triangular head/pointed head
4. fangs....if you can see these, well, you might be in trouble
I had one bite me at the alafia river and went to the hospital immediately...i took a picture of it though and then showed a reptile vet at the hospital. He then said it was a banded water snake. it was a relief and a $2000 hospital visit
 

rotarymagic

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Originally Posted by GSELLERS
http:///forum/post/2792311
yeah the 4 key factors to look for a poisonus snake is
1. rough scales
2. eliptical eyes
3. triangular head/pointed head
4. fangs....if you can see these, well, you might be in trouble
I had one bite me at the alafia river and went to the hospital immediately...i took a picture of it though and then showed a reptile vet at the hospital. He then said it was a banded water snake. it was a relief and a $2000 hospital visit

You are dead wrong. First of all, there's no such thing as a poisonous snake as the venom must be injected intramuscularly. all those physical observations you listed are rather retarded... A dehydrated ANYTHING has rough scales... eliptical eyes? hahahaha... my ball python and boa BOTH have those, my boa has a triangular head. The only way to know is to know.

venomous?

venomous?

venomous

venomous?

venomous?
 

rotarymagic

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Originally Posted by GSELLERS
http:///forum/post/2792311
yeah the 4 key factors to look for a poisonus snake is
1. rough scales
2. eliptical eyes
3. triangular head/pointed head
4. fangs....if you can see these, well, you might be in trouble
I had one bite me at the alafia river and went to the hospital immediately...i took a picture of it though and then showed a reptile vet at the hospital. He then said it was a banded water snake. it was a relief and a $2000 hospital visit
If you are bit by a venomous snake, you'll know instantly because wherever got bit will feel like its on fire almost instantaneously. And you'll start seeing bruising, necrosis, blackness of the site within 10seconds. With elapids, you will feel faint and lazy while your nervous system shuts down and your cardiovascular system is paralyzed.
 

rotarymagic

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Answers below:
Top one: Boomslang, rearfanged yet deadly.
Second: Black mamba, self explanatory.
Third: King cobra, self explanantory.
Fourth: Scrub python, nonvenomous
Fifth: Viper Boa, nonvenomous
 
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