SOS HELP!

mr.marine

Member
okay,
yesterday at around 8pm my mom and i noticed that my flame was acting weird. she was going very fast and seemed to be hyper. he would make sudden twiches ever so often. he would also glance against the side of a rock over and over. i checked todaY AND HE HAS CALMED DOWN. HE DOESNT HAVE ANY SPOTS! ANY IDEAS!??? the water is PEEEEEEERFECT! and he has been her over a week with no troubles. he eats great
 

flamehawk

Active Member
MY flame does the same things sometimes. I've traced it to something spooking him. He usually recovers quite nicely. Hope you have the same outcome, it sounds like you will.
 

beecher

Member
My lemonpeel did the same thing until I got enough rock in the tank where he can go hide. I havent seen him do it since. I think half the battle in keeping a thriving angel fish is plenty of hiding spaces.
 

mr.marine

Member
SOMEONE PLEASE HELP! my flame is still doing this . its now been like 3 days. HELP PLEASE!!! SALT?? TERRY???SAMMY??BETH???? Someone??? Im desperate! I love my little flamey! :( :( :( :( :(
 

bigdawg

Member
The fish scrapping against rocks is a sign of some kind of parasitic disease, at least I thought. Whenever I see my fish doing that over and over I treat my water with some kind of medication. I can't give you any advice on which one to get. Anybody know the best?
 

mr.marine

Member
can i put in medication with my lr??? will my other two percs. be affected by medication. i dont have a hospital tank. my stupid dad sold my old 25 gallon, hang on filter, light hood, lights, and substrate for like nothing at a garage sale! URRRGG!
Ps- someone help!
 

@knight

Member
what other fish are in the tank? is there anything that chases it? If your water levels are "PEEEEEERFECT", and it is alone in the tank. I have heard of hawks spazzing out every now and then, but 3 days sounds like much. I would not sweat it just yet, especially if he is eating well. But if it keeps it up for longer than a week, i would suspect something a little more serious. You might try the D/T page for better info.
 

fish fry

Member
A water chaneg can never hurt. Although if there was something in the water it would probably be affecting all the fish.
Keep us updated
 

dasnake03

Member
It could have cyanide poisening,at the lfs that I used to work at if we got the flames from the phillipines,they would do that.If it ends up dead for no reason that would be why it died.How long have you had it?
 

mr.marine

Member
UPDATE:
sadly, my fish flamey, has a parasite disease called oodinium. i have found this out after consulting with a local marine biologist. the tank is currently being treated with an oodinium REEF SAFE... YES I SAID REEF SAFE.....medication. It is imported from germany. i hope it all goes well. for those of you who do not know what oodinium is read along...........
OODINIUM: oodinium "i have found out" is a parasite disease. it is not possible to spot it like ich because it is too small. the bad thing is is that it kills fish rapidly and can infect other fish. Oh nO! it usually caues discoloration, hard breathing and scratching. I would look for it or talk to a marine specialist if ur fish acts like what i have stated in the first post of this post. Good luck to everyone. I hope my flamey lives!
flame :(
 

beth

Administrator
Staff member
Ooodinium can be seen on fish and normally takes on the appearance of a yellow-gold or rust colored "dusting" appearance. As if fine powder has been sprinkled on the fish. It is much smaller than ick and is not like salt dots.
Sorry its taken so long to post to your problem, Flame, but you've placed your thread in the wrong Forum. It should go in Disease, thus, I am going to move it for you.
Oodinium will wipe a whole tank out within just a couple of days, which is why I wonder if your diagnosis is correct. I would be interested in knowing what kind of "reef safe" medication was suggested to you. Normal treatment for Oodinium usually requires toxic chemical treatment with copper, or, more better, formaldahyde treatments. All fish will need to be treated.
In any case, I'm moving you to Disease Forum. TerryB can also comment on your problem. He has written a good deal about this disease, if you will use your search feature you can read up on what he has to say.
Good Luck!
 

mr.marine

Member
The product i am using is imported from GERMANY. it is called EXODIN. it is reef safe. i bought it at a lfs wher the owners are two achieved MARINE BIOLOGISTS! they said they have had customers use this in their reefs with corals and everything has been ok. they use it sometimes too. if anyone one wants more info just let me know. the product i baught was 39.99! hope it works! i have to dose the tank every 2 days for a week.
flame :D :(
 

mr.marine

Member
terry,
the fish is constantly going near the top of the tank if this helps ur diagnosis. the MB said he was trying to get more air. he said it was a condition of OOdinium. well. the product is imported form germany. It was EXPENSIVE 39.99 for 100 ml bottle!the actiove ingredients it says are:
Acetic Acid.
Dimethylglycol.
aquadest ad 100.
thats all it says for ingredients. i guess its one of these hush hush formulas. does this sound ok too you???
UPDATE: the fish has not lost any more color but color loss is quite a bit. he is regularily going to top of tank. still scratching and moving jerky like hyper. eating extremely well. Ive alreay added one dosage. it says to dose very two days, up to four doses. my next dose it tomorrow. the 27th.
thanks flame!
 

mr.marine

Member
UPDATE: when i came home today i noticed that the flame is getting back a bit of its colours. ive only given him one dose out of four but even if he gets alot better i plan on finishing the treatement. he is no longer hitting himself agains the rrock constantly. i only saw him do it once. all the lr is ok. so are all the lr inverts.
 
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