Startup Crew / 24G Nano

jehannum

New Member
Howdy Folks,
This is my first post, but I'm a long time lurker around these forums. I'm finally making the jump to salt, but with my smaller apartment I'm lookin to go with the 24G Nano that seems so great.
Could anyone give me the ups / downs of owning one and maybe a potential cleanup crew to start? I'm quite partial to the Banded Coral Shrimp and Brittle Stars, but I know that I'm kinda limited. Any ideas?
 

perfectdark

Active Member
Welcome Jehannum,
I cant really speak for anything other than a nano type tank mainly because this was my first salt water tank too. Some of the cons I have come across with mine have been flow in the tank, lighting and cooling. I upgraded the main pump to get more flow and added 2 more power heads. The larger pump increased the temperature in my tank so I put a small fan in there to help circulate more. There are a lot of things you can do to the filter compartments in the back. Some people have done nothing, some people have done everything. Do a search for mods to the nanos and you will see. I love mine, although weekly maintanence is a must its alot of fun.
I have a brittle star but they get huge quickly and they should be fed some sort of meaty diet every couple of days, I have to relocate mine soon.
As far as clean up crews go.. dozen or so snails and 6 to 8 hermits, that should be a good start. Youll prb get a few more along the way but they need to eat so dont over stock too soon. I also have 2 emerald greens in my tank and they love to eat green hair algea. Hope this helps good luck.
 

jehannum

New Member
Thanks alot for the quick reply... everyone on here seems so knowledgeable.
I was kinda thinking the same thing... a few crabs and a few snails. I wasn't sure how much of an impact a Brittle Star / Banded Coral would make i regards to bio-load and food levels for the hermits and snails though.
It does seem like the most common "hot fix" is to increase the pump flow rate.
Any other ideas?
 

clay12340

Member
The problems I've had with the nanos are mainly temperature, the rate of change in water chemistry, and the limited space. If you've got things out of balance or are dosing incorrectly it is incredibly easy to have something test off the charts one day and be nearly non-existent the next.
A coral banded will be fine in there, but they won't tolerate the presence of other shrimp. A few people have reported problems of the shrimp actually attacking fish, but it is pretty rare. It will cost slightly more and be harder to find, but if possible you should go for a blue coral banded shrimp. They stay considerably smaller and have a very nice blue color to their body.
Serpent stars are for the most part too large as PD said. There are some species that stay very small and make excellent additions to the clean up crew in a nano. They are harder to find, but they make a great addition if you can get them.
Snails are very different between species. A lot of species are not suitable in a nano reef tank. Some get too large, some are predatory, and some don't tend to do well in reef tank temperatures.
Some snails I like are Astreas for general hair algae grazing. Nassarius(the smaller species) are great for detritus clean up in the sandbed. Stomatella varia are awsome all purpose algae grazers that can often be found as hitch hikers on live rock. Strombus maculatus work well for eating algae. I find that they breed a little too quick for my liking. I'm constantly cleaning egg cases off the glass. Cerith snails will also eat algae, but they lay long strings of eggs on the glass.
There are a few snails that are commonly seen that should be avoided in my opinion. Bumblebee snails are really cute, but they are sandbed infauna predators and are counterproductive in reef tanks. Nearly all of the cowries and whelks are also predatory. Most conches get far too large for nanos. Margarita snails come from the cooler waters of the Gulf of Mexico in most cases and do not live long in 80* reef tanks.
When it comes to crabs I try to avoid them. All crabs are opportunistic omnivores. So if that emerald mithrax crab sees a small sleeping fish or shrimp or even a tasty coral it won't think twice about making a meal out of it. It isn't a common occurrence, but when you make the tank smaller the odds of an unfortunate meeting rise.
The dwarf hermits don't pose a threat to fish and shrimp as they are much smaller, but they are capable of putting the hurt on a snail population. I've got a single hermit in my 12 gallon and he has claimed a handful of snails. He is cute enough to be worth the trouble, but I don't think I'd keep more than a few hermits with snails. Unless of course the tank was very large.
 

jehannum

New Member
This is alot of great info...
I really appreciate all the help. Anyone have any extra thoughts on startup, mods or especially first fish to include with a coral banded shrimp?
Will they attack others?
 
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