Stupid Questions!!!

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crm13

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I feel that I have to get this off my chest, so I want to address something that bothers me. I am not someone that places a whole heck of a lot of posts, but I do read a lot of them, and I do so almost every day (I am sure there are many of you that do as well.) But, I can't help but notice that sometimes people are just downright snotty and rude, especially to the new guys.
I am dissappointed to see that most of the snotty responses come from experienced people, as if they had forgotten what it was like when they were the new guy. People are quick to fly off the handle when someone states something that may, to some extent, reflect a certain amount of ignorance.
I understand the importance of research, and I try to do as much of it as I can. After all, the well being of your investment as well as the living organisms that we decide to bring into our homes are at stake here. No different than the responsibilities of any other pet. I would like to stress to the new guys that research is very important; don't skimp on it.
But, I have been around the block long enough to realize that not everyone learns the same way. Some people just downright suck at research. Some people learn better through interactive research. That's what makes this site enjoyable. The flexibility to learn basic information and keeping skills from experienced people, and the ability for experienced people to share advanced techniques between each other make for an interesting and enjoyable board. Seeing an experienced aquarist respond to a newbie with a snotty answer or a relative lack of patience; well, you can get that at the LFS. It really takes the enjoyment out of learning this way. It's like saying to the people that learn this way the best, that "You're not good enough to keep saltwater specimens!!" That may be true of some of the people that post on this board, but I don't think that is for anyone else on this board to decide. I am sure that is not the intention, but come all you guys that have been doing this for quite some time, you're like the encyclopedia of this board, the knowledge, experience, and the basic backbone of this board.
It's the snotty responses that the newbies read that lead them to believe that they need to start their post with "this may be a stupid question, but...." People are afraid to admit to their mistakes, post things they aren't sure is the right way of doing something, ask "STUPID QUESTIONS" all because of a response someone else got for trying to learn from someone with experience. It's like taking away an avenue through which someone could possibly receive some of the best information they may ever learn keeping saltwaterfish from a place that he may have the ability to learn it best.
Anyway, this goes out to all the new guys..... don't feel that any of your questions are stupid; THEY'RE NOT STUPID. For every one person that may think it is, there are a handful that wanted to ask the same thing but didn't because they were AFRAID of feeling stupid. Now, they just may learn something without having to feel that way.
To all the guys that have a wealth of knowledge to offer...... lighten up a little bit and try and remember when you were asking the stupid questions. I am sure you don't want the newbie to feel like the guy at the LFS made you feel. And you know the one that I mean; the one that made you swear you will never step foot in that place again. Don't take the fun out of something that should be nothing but fun.
Just my thoughts. No harm intended.
 

jag3365

Member
Excellent crm13. I agree and like the way you put it. Everyone has to start out somewhere. I just wish I could give more advice to people. I have done a lot of research and read all the books. I still don't know half the stuff and I know someone on this board will give me the answer.
And saying that I would trust most people on this board to any LFS around me.
 

belothsurf

Member
OK, I hear ya. On a serious note, this "is" a place to learn and experience a very wonderful, esquisite (big word) and fascinating hobby. Post a question on here, and you'll get a number of answers (maybe). Some of them very serious, to the point, and direct. Personally, I'm the type of person that tries to see humor in anything and everything I do, so many of my answers come from that perspective. Other people are different, and may answer from a differtent perspective, i.e., very scientific and to the point. Hopefully, it won't come across as "snotty" or arrogant. And most of the time, it's probably not meant that way. And we all type stuff that we would re-type differently the next day. Anyway, the gist of it is, is that everything said on here should be taken with a grain of salt, and anyone mature enough should be able to figure it out. JMHO..................:happyfish
 
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crm13

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I definitely don't want this to be a debate of any sort; so, if anyone disagrees, feel free to say so. I will not rebut in any way, as I really don't feel that I need to defend the position of "It's not what you say, it's how you say it." Everyone knows that already. I just think that sometimes, new guys are discouraged simply by responses that seem a bit caustic, that's all. :)
 

neotrin17

Member
I couldn't agree with you more. I have read many times where people ask question..and they may not get the response so they ask for a clarification and are suddenly tossed to the bottom of the pond.
People learn different ways...and I agree with you. We all started out at beginners...me I am still and always questioning what I am doing.
I look past the people that try and make me feel as though I am asking a silly question...because like you said when I ask there are 5 other people out there with the same question.
this is the place to learn. to get numberous responses (sometimes) to questions.
I have learned a lot from this place...but many times people tend to gang up on people for just having the desire to learn.
Great Post...I think it needed to be said...and I totally second every word!
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tizzo

Guest
I hate posts titled "this is a stupid question" because I don't think there is a such thing as a stupid question!! Just about Every thread I see with that title has a valid real question, therefore I don't think it warrents the title. Mine (I assume that's what you are talking about) is really kinda dumb though... How do you know if it's dead??!!?? I did a search and it's never been asked before, so maybe I'm missing somethin'.
I certainly didn't mean to offend anyone and I apologize if I did. I was only trying to emphasise that there is no such thing as a stupid question, so I hate when people title their threads as such.
I'll rename it, so as not to "IMPLY" anything negative.:)
 
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tizzo

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Couldn't rename it, so I deleted it...
But since I did, curiosity is gonna kill some people so I will admit it...
I named my thread "I hate threads named "stupid ??" but..."
And you already know the question from the above posts.
 
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tizzo

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Oh yeah, and ANOTHER reason I hate that title is...
If I say I have a dumb question and ask it...
Then someone else realizes that they just asked that same question last week and THEY didn't think it was dumb...Tell me, how easy will it be for them to ask another question??
I really didn't mean it as a bad thing...
See, now you got me feelin' all guilty and bad and stuff!!:confused:
 
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crm13

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Tizzo, this thread is not directed towards you at all. Sorry if you got that impression somehow.:notsure: This thread is just an emotional response to some of the replies that I have read on this board. I wrote it like 4 or 5 days ago. :)
 
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tizzo

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Originally posted by crm13
Bump for those that never make it to the third page.

That's why I responded as such. oops I guess?
 
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crm13

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Besides, Tizzo, I have read your posts, and you are very friendly in your approach. That's really cool. I would ask for your advice anytime... just don't give me any bad ones.:D
 
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tizzo

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You know what??? Now that I reflect, I saw this post before and didn't open it because of it's title. And I think subliminally that is why I named mine what I did!! HAAA That's too funny!
 

rbmount

Active Member
The only dumb or stupid questions are the ones that go unasked. I think the problem arises when a correct answer is given (ex, don't put a tang in a 20 gal tank) the newbie's reply is I'm going to do it anyway, because I think it's a pretty fish. Or, my 12 inch lionfish and baby clown get along so well together, they just swim all thru the rocks. After rerun and rerun of these "you don't know nothing, cause my lfs said I can put a mandarin in a nano", I think the experts, and yes, there are a lot of them here, get tired of people not listening and putting their fish, inverts, corals thru basically what amounts to hell for them, just because they read a book that said so. Sorry for the rant, I am by means no expert, but If I ask a question here, I read and listen, and I use the search button to see what others have said in the past. Just my .02 cents.
 
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