Sump/ Refugium design

smidree

Member
ok here is what i have so far starting to plan on building my own to save alittle cash any sugestions would be greatly appreciated what i have is a 46 gallon bow front hopefully going to be a reef only about 2 months old going to build this all from scratch looked at a ton of other designs on here and still looking at them not a finished product also no drilled overflow so gonna try to make that one also saw one in the diy section made out of pvc gonna try that one wish me luck lol
 

king_neptune

Active Member
looks like a functional design.
Here is one i made:

Notice i have three chambers....the middle is the return, the outer two are feeds.
The chamber with the egg crate is going to house my sand and live rock(they will weigh down the eggcrate..it just floated in the flow test). Also I will have a turf scrubber hanging into this chamber as well.
The far right chamber is my skimmer station, if i go all natural...i can use this as a chaeto section, more LR, another scrubber ECT.
the middle is the return that feeds back up to the system.
OK now the science behind it....
Water flow is a big factor, you dont want water streaming through you sump/fuge at high volume. the slower water moves the better. Many skimmers have thier peak at 600gph. Scrubbers and chaeto tend to work great at around 400 gph.
Well i want water turn over as well in my system. Enter the middle return chamber...
I can effectively double the water flow through my sump by doing %50 through each side. and having them meet in the middle.
Ill probably have 500GPH on my scrubber/LR side(becuase im doing a large scrubber). and 600gph on my skimmer side(because thats what the manufacturer sudgests).
Since they meet in the middle..i basicly have 1100 GPH pumping back up to the top.
To control the flow...i'll have butterfly valves on both sides to control in coming water..and a control valve on the return pump to throttle it down.
Hope i gave you some productive thoughts.
BTW i think your current design is just fine.
 

smidree

Member
thanks for the good comment im still not sure about the pump and eventually i will put a skimmer in it a friend had acrylic laying around so got that for free thank god lol still have to put it together was thinking of putting another baffle on the right side i will post pics when i start doing it trying to figure out what size pump and skimmer was thinking maybe a 300 gph pump then again was thinking i may want to up it to 600 gph but havent decided yet that is a nice design you got there also
cant wait to get it all up and running defiantly need to learn more first salt tank and loving it
 

locoyo386

Member
Originally Posted by smidree
http:///forum/post/3067194
here is the overflow design i was going with all in 1 in stole it from someone on this fourm
Hi there,
I have seen this design before, but I have a question for you.
How do you keep from over flooding the sump/refugium in case of the return pump turning off when you are not there?
Never mind, I did not pay close attetion.
 

florida joe

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by smidree
http:///forum/post/3072170
the overflow is built here are some pics
I have a question. Looking at the pic I assume the right side of your plumping in going to be in your tank. Is the PVC, which looks like it has a barb fitting on it going to be the depth in which it is in your tank?
 

florida joe

Well-Known Member
Not necessarily a problem. Just going over a checklist in my mind as far as the plumping. If you loose power to your return pump and you start back siphon into your sump will you have a siphon brake before you overflow? I would also put a valve in the second from the right vertical PVC so I can uncouple with out causing a flood
 

florida joe

Well-Known Member
How do you plan on starting your initial siphoning when your pvc is in place and how will you start it again when your system is shut down
 
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