Tervman - Dog Training?

shels

Member
Tervman, I noticed that you are a dog handler, and was wondering if you had any suggestions on training our 8 month old Maltese/Yorkie to not bark so much. He barks when he plays with his mother, he barks when the big dogs go in or out the doggie door in the other room, also barks at the birds in the yard in the morning. This is the worst thing he does, other then this he is great. We spary them (him & his mom) with a spary bottle and teel them NO BARK, it is working for Nikki (his mom), but Moose just looks at you and stops for the moment, but then will do it again right away.
We are trying to get a handle on this since we have a baby due in the begining of October. I don't want them waking the baby because they are barking at birds.
I have heard of people having their voice box's removed, but I do not beleive in that.
Any suggestions would be great, Thanks!:)
 

michelle13

Member
Have you tried a training collar? My dog wears a bark collar at night and it keeps her from barking at everything.
 

shels

Member
Michelle, the thing that worried me about that is Moose is only 8lbs, isn't he too small for that?
 

birdy

Active Member
Shels, hopefully Tervman will help you, but about the baby, they ignore things that they hear, in fact in the womb is very loud which is why many babies calm down to the vaccum being run or to a loud ssssshhhh noise in their ear when they are crying. My dog barks quite a bit and never woke the twins up when they were little or if it did they would go back to sleep quickly. So the barking may not be a problem with the baby.
Now I do know of couple of training techniques which can work (but don't always). The first is to train the dog to lay down, dogs cannot bark very well when they are laying down. Everytime a tigger for barking comes make moose lay down. Another trick is to teach him to bark on command then in theory he will only bark when you ask him because he will get a reward for it. Clicker training is a good way to teach dogs tricks and commands, you start out using very small bite size treats then you move to no treats just praise, and an occasional treat. Along with the Bark on command you can turn that to a "no bark" command which is rewarded. The biggest problem with barking is that it is a reward in itself the reward they get from barking is better than anything you can give them or punish them for, so the trick is to find something they like more than barking and use that as a reward.
Hope that helps a little.
 

shels

Member
Birdy, thanks for the info, it does make sense. I will try the barking on command. Also it made me feel alot better about him barking and waking the baby. I have the baby's room right next to the garage so she will get used to all the normal noise with my husband working in the garage.
 

tervman

Member
Ahhhhh….one of the $64,000 questions - how to stop a dog from barking.
Just to let you know, up front, it has been my experience that small dogs, in general, but not always, tend to bark more than large dogs. If I am set-up at a show, beside someone that has a dozen small crates, I know it's going to be a loud weekend, since some of the smaller dogs tend to bark at everything that moves.
My first suggestion would be to take him to a local obedience class, to give him an avenue to burn off some excess energy. Then, I would plan to work him at least 3 days a week, to reinforce what he learned in class. Also, remember that puppies have very short attention spans, so don't make the sessions too long, or he might get distracted. If you are not able to do the class and training, due to your pregnancy, have your husband, or a friend, do the training. Whoever does the training should do both class and at-home training, for consistency.
One thing you might try, if you can't find a local obedience class, is to put him on a leash, then provide a distraction that usually causes him to bark. Tell him to hush (or whatever command you choose), and give him a quick snap of the training collar, or a light pop under the chin, to reinforce your command. If he is quiet, for only a second or two, praise him and give him a treat. Be careful about the praise, however....you don't want to give him a lot of exuberant praise if it causes him to bark - a subdued "good boy," accompanied by a treat, should work fine. Continue this process, waiting longer and longer before giving him the praise and treat (and giving him the treat at random intervals as your training progresses), until you are able to successfully control the barking with a simple voice command.
Giving him another command, like sit/down/shake, etc, might help take his mind off of barking, since he would be expected to do whatever you told him to do, instead of barking. Teach this command as you would the command to stop barking. However, make sure you use a command that is only used for that one action. In other words, don’t use the command “down” to mean both “lie down” and “don’t jump on me.”
Also, as has been mentioned earlier, teaching him to bark on command might be an option. You would do just like the command to stop barking....short training sessions, being sure to praise and reward immediately upon the desired response to your command (i.e. the bark).
You can explore a bark collar, if you wish - they do make small ones. However, I would try to focus the energy first, before using the collar. But, the collars do work. We have a 6yo b!tch that loves to just get out in the middle of the yard and bark at nothing (I think it's her version of singing in the shower). We have used a collar on her for several years, with success. And, in case you were wondering, her attitude is still magnificent!
I always consider debarking as a last resort. However, if all else fails, it would be an option. If you decide to go this route, BE SURE you have the procedure performed by a veterinarian who is experienced with the process. You might want to contact some local Yorkie or Maltese people in your area and see if they can recommend a qualified vet. Collie and Sheltie people also tend to know who is skilled at performing this surgery.
I went to the Yorkie Club of America's website (www.ytca.org), and found an interesting tidbit in their list of Pros and Cons for having a small dog. To quote the site, “Behavior problems may be directly associated with their human families behavior pattern. (Noisy family/noisy dog, calm family/quiet dog, emotional upset in family/behavior change in dog).” In other words, if you have a lot of commotion at your house - getting ready for the baby, other dogs running around, etc. - this could contribute to the barking.
The YTCA site lists the phone number of a lady who is available to talk Yorkies at specific times during the day. I would strongly suggest giving her a call, to see if she has other ideas that may be more specific to the breed.
Hope this helps.
Larry (Tervman)
 

shels

Member
Larry, Thanks so much for all the info it is greatly appreciated. I am happy to say that he has been a little better on the barking, we have been telling him "No Bark" and tapping him on the rear. But I noticed Nikki his mom is playing with him ALOT more now that her puppies are not needing her attention anymore (they are 7 weeks). Plus he takes care of them and plays with them. I think like you said it is using up some of that extra excess energy.
I think I am going to sign Moose and my husband up for classes. (My husband is going to love this.:D )
I was also wondering if the bark collar changed them at all and you answered that question before I could even ask.:confused: It sounds like something Moose would do, singing in the shower. LOL
Thanks Again
Shel
 

tervman

Member
Shels,
Your welcome. Hope this info helps out. Keep me posted on their progress (Moose AND
your Hubby
)
Larry
 
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