Texas man cleared of shooting neighbor's robber

aquaknight

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I thought Joe Horn moved to Atlanta

Seriously though, glad those two pieces of dirt are gone. No penalty needed. Maybe some reimbursement for his time?
 
mimzy

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+1 again. if ur breaking into my house, im going to shoot you. period. if i catch you breaking into my neighbor's/friend's/family's house, i'm going to shoot you.
if you don't want to get shot, don't break into other people's houses.
 
tangman99

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I see no fault in what he did. If it happened more often, you wouldn't have people breaking into houses. He was lucky he was using a shotgun. It's the weapon of least liability in that you aim for mass and can't control the shot itself. Now if he had pulled a .45 and popped them both between the eyes, it may have looked a bit more intentional.
 
reefreak29

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im kinda torn, yes the men commited a crime at 2 in the afternoon so nobody was home. were the men unarmed i think so, did they need to be killed for breaking into a home? seems kinda harsh. plus he shot them in the back seems cowardly. he at least could have shot them in the feet or legs but why not just let them go and give the cops a possitive id. whatever ,he will have to live with that decision.
 
aw2x3

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He'll have to live with the decision he made, yes...but I see no reason why he should be held of any wrong doing.
As pretty much everyone else has said...I see nothing wrong with what he did and I'd have done the same thing.
TangMan is a police officer and he agrees, as well. Can't get much better than that.
 
aquaknight

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Originally Posted by reefreak29
http:///forum/post/2669455
...did they need to be killed for breaking into a home? seems kinda harsh...
Tell you what, how far would home invasions/robberies rates drop if all neighbors looked out for each other and the threat of being shot was real?
 
tangman99

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Originally Posted by AW2x3
http:///forum/post/2669477
He'll have to live with the decision he made, yes...but I see no reason why he should be held of any wrong doing.
As pretty much everyone else has said...I see nothing wrong with what he did and I'd have done the same thing.
TangMan is a police officer and he agrees, as well. Can't get much better than that.
Ex from over 15 years ago. But I still say the shotgun was key. Now if it had been a cop did this, they would have crucified him. An old man with a shotgun protecting his neighbors property, yelling for them to stop and they run toward him; easy for him to get scared and fire off a couple of rounds. I still don't see a problem.
 
reefreak29

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Originally Posted by AquaKnight
http:///forum/post/2669491
Tell you what, how far would home invasions/robberies rates drop if all neighbors looked out for each other and the threat of being shot was real?
well i suppose we could get rid of people that drink and drive too , bam shot in the head for any broken laws, we could have the perfect society.
tell you what if your son,nephew or brother broke into a house whyll knowbody was home to steel a tv should he be put to death
 
aquaknight

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Originally Posted by reefreak29
http:///forum/post/2669507
well i suppose we could get rid of people that drink and drive too , bam shot in the head for any broken laws, we could have the perfect society.
tell you what if your son,nephew or brother broke into a house whyll knowbody was home to steel a tv should he be put to death
I have very little respect for anybody that steals from other people. That is one of the lowest things you can do.
That is a bit of an oversimplification. These people didn't just break into a house and were shot. They were confronted by the neighbor and given a perfectly good opportunity to live, just by waiting for the police. They chose to flee and/or attack the man. If anyone I knew did all of those actions, they would be forever remembered as the dumb.... they were.
 
reefreak29

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Originally Posted by AquaKnight
http:///forum/post/2669539
I have very little respect for anybody that steals from other people. That is one of the lowest things you can do.
That is a bit of an oversimplification. These people didn't just break into a house and were shot. They were confronted by the neighbor and given a perfectly good opportunity to live, just by waiting for the police. They chose to flee and/or attack the man. If anyone I knew did all of those actions, they would be forever remembered as the dumb.... they were.
they didnt try to attack they were shot in the back
 
aquaknight

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Originally Posted by reefreak29
http:///forum/post/2669542
they didnt try to attack they were shot in the back
From the article posted:
"It was over within seconds. The detective never had time to say anything before the shots were fired," Corbett said. "At first, the officer was assessing the situation. Then he was worried Horn might mistake him for the 'wheel man' (getaway driver). He ducked at one point."
When Horn confronted the suspects in his yard, he raised his shotgun to his shoulder, Corbett said. However the men ignored his order to freeze.
Corbett said one man ran toward Horn, but had angled away from him toward the street when he was shot in the back just before reaching the curb.
"The detective confirmed that this suspect was actually closer to Horn after he initiated his run than at the time when first confronted," said Corbett. "Horn said he felt in jeopardy."
Ortiz and Torres died a short distance from Horn's house, both shot in the back.
Sounds good enough for me?
 
reefreak29

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Originally Posted by AquaKnight
http:///forum/post/2669565
From the article posted:
Sounds good enough for me?

sound fishy to me why didnt he shoot him when he was running toward him? why did he wait till he was running toward the street. most likely he had to run toward him to get to the street.
I remember watching the news awhile back, a 70 year old man shot a guy that was in his back yard for tresspassing killed him , he was 10.
 
aquaknight

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Originally Posted by reefreak29
http:///forum/post/2669580
sound fishy to me why didnt he shoot him when he was running toward him? why did he wait till he was running toward the street. most likely he had to run toward him to get to the street.
I remember watching the news awhile back, a 70 year old man shot a guy that was in his back yard for tresspassing killed him , he was 10.
IMO the only one who can answer this is some else who's shot another person. I'm sure there is some hesitation before pulling the trigger. You keep aim on the person instinctively, but are running the shoulds/shouldn'ts of actually pulling the trigger in your head, maybe not even actually witnessing what happens. I've never been in that situation, so I can't comment. Nor do I think a jury can make that decision.
Either way, these people were robbers and did not care if a gun was pointed at them. I know if a gun was aimed at me, I would probably consider listening to the orders being given. The fact that these guys seemed to not even worry about that, makes their demise that much more justifiable. You make you're choice, "is this guy going to shot me or not" and live with the repercussions.
 
reefreak29

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Originally Posted by AquaKnight
http:///forum/post/2669596
IMO the only one who can answer this is some else who's shot another person. I'm sure there is some hesitation before pulling the trigger. You keep aim on the person instinctively, but are running the shoulds/shouldn'ts of actually pulling the trigger in your head, maybe not even actually witnessing what happens. I've never been in that situation, so I can't comment. Nor do I think a jury can make that decision.
Either way, these people were robbers and did not care if a gun was pointed at them. I know if a gun was aimed at me, I would probably consider listening to the orders being given. The fact that these guys seemed to not even worry about that, makes their demise that much more justifiable.
mabie then a 60 plus year old man with terrible reflexes shouldnt own a gun then
 
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Originally Posted by reefreak29
http:///forum/post/2669455
plus he shot them in the back seems cowardly. he at least could have shot them in the feet or legs but why not just let them go and give the cops a possitive id. whatever ,he will have to live with that decision.
I wish i had a few neighbors like him around! plus, he wasnt a young man, so i doubt he could have chased them down and kung fu chopped them into submission. AND i am pretty sure he would have shot them in the chest if they would have been facing him. PLUS, i am guessing he shot them with a shotgun.......which would have been tough to just shoot them in the leg.
My opinoin, if he wouldnt have killed them, the two dirtbags might have come back to kill him the next night so that he couldnt have identified them......
he was just takin care of business
 
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