The importance of iron in a reef?

snakeblitz33

Well-Known Member
I understand the importance of water changes, and many of you will argue that with regular water changes, iron deficiencies would not exist. However, as with anything in this hobby, it's all variable, changing and depends on the situation.
However, for those of us that do not do very many water changes and are seeing a decrease in the growth of higher forms of algae should look into dosing a little iron in their system if notate and phosphates are present and there is minimal macroalgae growth with proper lighting. What other benefits are there?
Discuss. :)
 

spanko

Active Member
From Randy
"Iron in the ocean is primarily iron(III) (Fe[sup]3+), because any Fe[sup]2+[/sup] that forms is oxidized back to Fe3+[/sup] by oxygen (O[sub]2) and other oxidizing species. The concentration of iron varies substantially with location and depth, and is depleted at the surface due to scavenging by organisms. Typical surface concentrations are on the order of 0.1 nM (0.000006 ppm). When not bound to an organic molecule, iron in seawater exists primarily as dissolved Fe(OH)3[/sub]. Iron(III) is quite insoluble in seawater at pH 8.2 due to the formation of iron oxides (rust) of various compositions. In fact, it is one of the least soluble cations in seawater. So dumping in a lot of unbound iron into a reef tank may simply result in much of it precipitating onto the bottom.
In most of the oceans, the growth of phytoplankton is limited by nitrogen sources (typically nitrate). In some places, however, where there is adequate nitrogen, phosphorus, and silica (if we are referring to diatoms), the growth of phytoplankton is believed to be limited by the availability of iron. Experiments have, in fact, shown that growth can be increased in some of these areas through addition of iron to the ocean. Many of these experiments are summarized by Frank Millero in his book "Chemical Oceanography" (second edition; 1996).
One of the facts that arises from these studies involves phosphorus. The preferred solution ratio of iron to phosphorus is between 1:100 and 1:1250 for coastal species of phytoplankton, and about 1:10,000 for open ocean species, suggesting that the open ocean species have developed better mechanisms for collecting and/or using iron. I mention this fact not because we can use it quantitatively to know if we have enough iron in our systems, but rather to demonstrate that different organisms have different abilities to fulfill their iron requirements, and that iron may be limiting the growth of one organism, while in the same tank, nitrogen, phosphorus or silica may be limiting to another.
Let's start with the latter. In a reef tank without macroalgae, or without adequate quantities that the macroalgae can be considered a significant sink for nutrients such as nitrogen and phosphorus, addition of iron may actually exacerbate an existing microalgae problem. It might also tip the balance toward a microalgae problem if iron were limiting microalgae growth. In these cases, I would either not add iron, or add it with an eye to stopping the addition if microalgae growth worsened.
Situations that might benefit from iron would be those where there is substantial macroalgae growth, with or without a microalgae "problem". In the case without any microalgae concern, the macroalgae may simply grow faster and thereby lower the nutrient levels in the tank that are otherwise undesirable (such as phosphate which can inhibit calcification by corals). Macroalgae growth is, in fact, one of the best phosphate export mechanisms in a reef tank, and optimizing this method may be very beneficial."
Entire article
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2002/8/chemistry
 
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smallreef

Guest
I feel much more informed,,,,, and now i remember how much I hated chem in college the first time, lol and how much we really depend on it everyday, lol
 

bang guy

Moderator
There is anecdotal evidence that one of the reasons for the slow decline of Green Goniopora in captivity is persistent low iron levels.
 

snakeblitz33

Well-Known Member
I'm sure some species use it more than others.
I know when I dosed iron in my tank, my scrubber screen went nuts for a few days. If micro algaes use iron, and you have a scrubber, iron might not be that bad of a supplement to add, eh?
 

btldreef

Moderator
My red macro algaes definitely do better if I dose a little iron and iodine. We haven't been dosing for long so it's not enough to see long term effects. I will say that my chaeto is growing out of control since adding iron, and I never used to be able to grow it at all
 

snakeblitz33

Well-Known Member
So there is an anecdote!
I agree with you btldreef, I've seen my chaeto grow so fast after adding a little iron. Even though I have a phos reactor on my 20 gallon, my chaeto still grows pretty fast.
 

bang guy

Moderator
Careful though. Iron is also the major limiting factor for many types of microalgae. Iron is fantastic for accelerating Phytoplankton growth. You don't want to end up with greenwater in your DT.
 

snakeblitz33

Well-Known Member
Your absolutely right bang.
That is unless you want green water for feeding certain species of fish and inverts who are highly dependent on phytoplankton as a major food source, right?
I guess iron additions to a phyto culture wouldn't be bad unless the micro algae grow solutions already contain it.
 

snakeblitz33

Well-Known Member
What comes to mind when wanting green water in a tank is like aquaculture applications and sea urchin aquaculture, right bang?
 

bang guy

Moderator
I've used Iron as a supplement when growing greenwater for Rotifer food. Urchin Larvae would be similar I think.
 

flower

Well-Known Member
I would never dose anything I hadn't tested for. Seachem sells a test for iron, $13.09 from marine Depot. If you think your iron is low, get a test and if it is...dose. I wouldn't recommend anyone dose something they have not tested for no matter how much you think it must be low.
 
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