Toadstool leather not opening

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cmaxwell39

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I purchased a toadstool leather at my lfs saturday. It was fully open and very nice looking when I purchased it. Since putting it in my tank it has started to open up a couple of times, but in the last couple of days it has not opened up at all. Is it still just acclimating to the new tank or is something wrong with it?
Water levels:
SG- 1.024
Amm.- 0
Trites- 0
Trates- 5-10
Ca.- 400
Alk- 9 dKh
Phos.- 0
ph- 8.2
This is my first coral other than a piece of star polyps that I got for free from another hobbyist around here. Have read that they can take a while to open fully after moving them, just thought it was weird that it was starting to open a little the first couple of days and the last couple I have not seen any of the pores open at all.
 
taznut

taznut

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is it in good flow??? take a turkey baster and blow water across it... they shead there skin quite often and need water movement to get that skin off....
 
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cmaxwell39

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Originally Posted by taznut
is it in good flow??? take a turkey baster and blow water across it... they shead there skin quite often and need water movement to get that skin off....

It is in decent flow. I had it in a higher flow area when I first put it in the tank (first 12 hours) and the flow seemed to be bendning it over so moved it out of the flow a little, but there still seems to be decent flow around it. Do you think I should move it back? I will try the turkey baster thing as well. Thanks.
 
taznut

taznut

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Originally Posted by cmaxwell39
It is in decent flow. I had it in a higher flow area when I first put it in the tank (first 12 hours) and the flow seemed to be bendning it over so moved it out of the flow a little, but there still seems to be decent flow around it. Do you think I should move it back? I will try the turkey baster thing as well. Thanks.
i dont know a whole lot about these i have just read this much... hope some one else will be able to help u... the trates are a little high (not that bad) but leathers are pretty tough so i dont think they are the reason...
 
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cmaxwell39

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Jesse89: I have 260w PC on a 75 gal tank. The toadstool is about halfway down in the tank. It was under PC lighting in the lfs as well and I was told that it had been taken in from a local guy who had aquacultured it in a PC tank.
How long does it normally take leathers to open up. Thanks for all the help.
 
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jesses89

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well your lights are more then good enough for it.... your nitrates arent a problem at all....
are there any other corals near it that touch it?
 
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cmaxwell39

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This is the first piece of coral that I have purchased. I do have a star polyp that was given to me but it is on the other end of the tank. There were 4 or 5 zoos and a very small mushroom that were on the same rock as the toadstool, but nothing is touching each other. Any other possiblities?
 
maingo

maingo

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Its more then likly sheading, mine stays open 5 days out of the week the other two sometimes three its sheading its old skin, it grows little by little with every shed.
PS: your Trates are not high at all, infact they are very low if you are telling the truth about the reading
 
rappa

rappa

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Originally Posted by Cherish life.
trates are high get em down....he is also haveing some trouble acclimating because the trates r high.
How can you advise on this when you own another thread asking people how to cycle a tank?
Your trates are ok. I have substantially higher trates and my toads are fine. But I do notice that they go through rather long periods of closing up. It seems like they are slightly moody. My first toadstool that I bought just shriveled up into nothing. I pretty much chalked that up to poor acclimation or burning him with halides. Since then I have fragged my others many times and they just seem to open and close whenever they want for no apparent reasons. Give it some time. As long as it doesn't get smaller it is still ok.
 
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cmaxwell39

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Thanks for all the help. I will just give it a while and hopefully it will be fine. The main reason that I was somewhat concerned is that it had started opening the first couple of days and since it has stayed closed up all the time. It is probably still acclimating as you guys say. Thanks again.
 
taznut

taznut

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waiting is the hardest thing to do in this hobby... the first couple corals i got i was on here the night after i put them in the tank wondering why they werent opening... now i just wait and nothing has died since this so i must be doing something right... i hope i can find a cheap toadstool sometime soon i really like them... it took my gsp about a month to open completely... good luck...
 
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jesses89

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maybe its the placement? maybe it doesnt like where you put it at....
did you acclimate it to your light? was he in a lower lighted tank when you bought it?
try moving it around... lower perhaps... see if thats the problem.
 
fallnhorse

fallnhorse

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my nitrates are from 5-10 all the time. But my leather stool is getting huge, My corals are doing great. If you have the proper lighting then i would just give it time. I got toad from a store that sounded like spectco. They had it under a stock lighting system and was closed up from lack of lighting. It took 3 weeks to come up but it did and is great done great. It's been a year since then. So proper lighting is important. Mine is under pc 260 for a 55 gallon.
 
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cmaxwell39

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Thanks for all the help everyone. My toadstool is still not opening, but I think I may have found a contributing factor tonight. There were a couple of zoos on the rock that the toadstool came on. This evening I noticed another polyp coming out from the bottom of the rock where it was touching the rock below it so I tried to repostion the toadstool rock to get this zoo free. That one was not being squished, but there was another one that was.
I guess my question now is: How do zoos fight? Could the squished zoo have been releasing a chemical that would cause the toadstool to close up? Thanks again for all the help.
 
xcdennisx

xcdennisx

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probably not. my toadstool didnt open for about a week and then it started to open up so much. it shed a thin layer of skin first thou.
 
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jesses89

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zoos arent aggressive... theyre pretty peaceful... so its not the zoos... when did you buy your toadstool?
 
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