Tomato or cinnamon clown???

[anonome]

Ok all, I have finally taken a half way decent picture of the ever fast, and camera shy clownfish. I know the picture is a little blurry, but believe me, this is the best one out of probably 40!! A while ago, xDave thought that I may have a cinnamon clown due to the markings (only described the fish, could never get a halfway decent picture.) So here is the picture. What do you all think.....tomato or cinnamon. :notsure: I bought it as a tomato, but now I am thinking I may have gotten a sweet deal, and actually have a cinnamon. I paid $11.99 for the "tomato". What do you think?
What has me stumped is that the cinnamon will typically host a sebae, and the tomato will host the bubble and sebae. I have a bubble. I also know that tomato's as they age will get darker in appearance. Which this one has.
Maybe it is neither, and a hybrid of somesort. Help me out guys.

 

[crox]

Cinnamon

 

[xdave]

Cinnamon, you can tell by that lower fin being black.

 

[lubeck]

i agree

 

[durgeonman]

without a doubt Cinnamon

 

[anonome]

Originally Posted by xDave
Cinnamon, you can tell by that lower fin being black.
Thanks xDave, one question though, why did it take to the bubble so fast. It hosted the bubble within 5 minutes of introduction into the tank. Just one of those things? Or only one to chose from? I guess we will never know without getting into his head.
Also, he is extremely territorial, the whole tank is his!! If I put my hand in to give the fish algae sheets, he nips at me the whole time. Doesn't really hurt, but he is only 1 1/2-2 inches at most now. Is this the temperment of cinnamons? I have always had ocellaris clowns---real sweethearts.
He or she has been in the tank for 6 months, any possibility of adding another one? Or too late now?

 

[crox]

You can definately add a smaller one.

 

[xdave]

Make sure the new one isn't too much smaller. Check at the same store, maybe their supplier doesn't know the difference. It has to have that black fin to be a cinnamon. It's really more complicated than that but having that black fin makes it definate.
It's really a crap shoot as to what they host in captivity. A friend of mine had 4 different types of anemones and his tomato clown insisted on hosting a picture of a pink tip on his background instead.

 

[anonome]

Originally Posted by xDave
Make sure the new one isn't too much smaller. Check at the same store, maybe their supplier doesn't know the difference. It has to have that black fin to be a cinnamon. It's really more complicated than that but having that black fin makes it definate.
It's really a crap shoot as to what they host in captivity. A friend of mine had 4 different types of anemones and his tomato clown insisted on hosting a picture of a pink tip on his background instead.
This is the problem I got him at a ***** :scared: Quarantined, of course, this just proves that they really don't know their fish.
So, I have a cinnamon, I would like to introduce a new one but am afraid of the turmoil. he/she is really territorial.
I have lots of holes for it to hide in....live rock...but really scared to introduce a new one. Is it possible?

 

[xdave]

Make sure the new one isn't too much smaller.

 

[anonome]

Thanks all for your input. I have decided that since this guy is such a dictator in the tank that adding another one will be asking for trouble. At least I finally know the real species that this clown is. Thanks again xDave.
I just hope that when he grows up his nips don't turn into bites!! Funny thing is he doesn't bother the other fish, just me. :thinking:

 

[vanos]

That fish kind of looks like my tomato clown. Is your clownfish aggressive?

 

[anonome]

Originally Posted by Vanos
That fish kind of looks like my tomato clown. Is your clownfish aggressive?
Very aggressive to me only, not to the other fish. However, the other fish are 3-4 times his size.

 

[dogstar]

Its a FM Cinnamon...as said, by the black pelvic fins..finding a male will be a toss up, they may/most likely will not have black fins or bodies because they only change when the fish changes ---....the males of these two species are hard to tell apart.
A Tomato FM will not have black pelvics, but may have alot of black in the body deppending on age.

 

[anonome]

Originally Posted by Dogstar
Its a FM Cinnamon...as said, by the black pelvic fins..finding a male will be a toss up, they may/most likely will not have black fins or bodies because they only change when the fish changes ---....the males of these two species are hard to tell apart.
A Tomato FM will not have black pelvics, but may have alot of black in the body deppending on age.
Dogstar, since they do change --- depending on which one is more dominant, could I get another one, slightly smaller? Would it change --- to a male? Or would the female beat the poop out of it? I really don't want to cause a war and havoc in a peaceful tank, so any suggestions would be great.

 

[dogstar]

They can only change from male to a FM. A FM will not change back to a male...Best to get a much smaller one from a group if you can find one and not the largest from the group to insure that your getting a male. more than likely there will be some aggression from the female at fisrt. Just the way it is.....Hopefully it wont be toooo bad and they will pair up, or, it could get pretty bad...really only one way to find out, try it.