treating with cupramine

espkh9

espkh9

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when treating a tank with copper (cupermine) is it true that you can not use stress coat to unstress the fish ? I have stress coat and it says to repair fins and scales use some..if it mixes with cupermine its bad ? someone told me this any truth to it my tank has some copper in it it reads 0 but there is always some tiny left in the rock sb or silicone...the fish look stressed...is it ok to put in some stress coat ?
 
spiderwoman

spiderwoman

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I have no idea how it would react but I would not add anything else to the water. You are already treating them with poison, no need to risk results, know what I mean?
 
sepulatian

sepulatian

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Stress coat does not repair fins by any means. It coats the body to "protect" it. It also coats the gills, making it hard for them to breath. Why are the fish stressed? What are your water readings?
 
florida joe

florida joe

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Good morning Sir Q I believe Stress coats main function is to detoxify ammonia, remove chlorine and chloramines. They add Aloe Vera to their product, which coats the fish to reduce electrolyte loss. I also agree this coating of the gills may in fact stress the fish more then protect its body from invasion.
 
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usirchchris

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Stress coat does not repair fins by any means. It coats the body to "protect" it. It also coats the gills, making it hard for them to breath. Why are the fish stressed? What are your water readings?
Hmm, never thought about that...the gill part.
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lion_crazz

lion_crazz

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As others have stated, stress coat does not repair fins (Vitamin C and other vitamins do, however).
If the fish are stressed, there has to be something going on in your water. What are your water readings?
 
espkh9

espkh9

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well the niger triger is acting like a bully to the wrasse I put in they are both small but the foxface wasa bit stresssed out and so was the wrasse...the readng were until my daughter overfed yesterday and b4 I went to bed the nitrates were 50...everything else was OK..i panicked freaked out and it a 40% water change. the levels are fine now nitratesstill at 15 but ok and the fish look better...as far as thestress coat is just said that because i belive it says that on the bottle..."to help with fins and scales damage" or something like that , i was just saying what they claim it does, they also claim is removes clorine andchloromine from tap water....if you use RO/DI water then does this product have a purpose ? just asking ?
 
sepulatian

sepulatian

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Originally Posted by florida joe
http:///forum/post/2591770
Good morning Sir Q I believe Stress coats main function is to detoxify ammonia, remove chlorine and chloramines. They add Aloe Vera to their product, which coats the fish to reduce electrolyte loss. I also agree this coating of the gills may in fact stress the fish more then protect its body from invasion.
It does nothing for ammonia, the rest is correct though.
Good evening
 
al mc

al mc

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There should be no chloramines present after going thru the RO/DI filter as you suggested.
 
sepulatian

sepulatian

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Originally Posted by Espkh9
http:///forum/post/2591915
well the niger triger is acting like a bully to the wrasse I put in they are both small but the foxface wasa bit stresssed out and so was the wrasse...the readng were until my daughter overfed yesterday and b4 I went to bed the nitrates were 50...everything else was OK..i panicked freaked out and it a 40% water change. the levels are fine now nitratesstill at 15 but ok and the fish look better...as far as thestress coat is just said that because i belive it says that on the bottle..."to help with fins and scales damage" or something like that , i was just saying what they claim it does, they also claim is removes clorine andchloromine from tap water....if you use RO/DI water then does this product have a purpose ? just asking ?
I personally do not like stress coat at all. It does remove chlorine and chloramines along with neutralizing heavy metals. If you are using RO/DI then there is no need for it at all. As mentioned, adding vitamins to their diet will help with fin regrowth.
 
florida joe

florida joe

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Originally Posted by sepulatian
http:///forum/post/2592290
It does nothing for ammonia, the rest is correct though.
Good evening

Wow Sir Q I may have the only bottle of API Stress Coat that states and I Quote from the bottle “Detoxifies ammonia in tap water” should I put this bottle of misrepresentation on E-Bay
good evening to you as well
 
sepulatian

sepulatian

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Originally Posted by florida joe
http:///forum/post/2592809
Wow Sir Q I may have the only bottle of API Stress Coat that states and I Quote from the bottle “Detoxifies ammonia in tap water” should I put this bottle of misrepresentation on E-Bay
good evening to you as well

From how long ago? Here is a quote from API, on stress coat, and what is on any current bottle.
Instantly removes chlorine and chloramines, making tap water safe for fish. Neutralizes heavy metals. Also, Stress Coat replaces the natural slime coating fish need in times of stress, such as handling, shipping or fighting. Contains Aloe Vera, nature's liquid bandage, to prevent the loss of essential electrolytes and protect damaged tissue against disease-causing organisms.
Some of this actually happens, it is alright for FW fish because it spreads out in the water, unlike in dense salt water.
 
florida joe

florida joe

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Originally Posted by sepulatian
http:///forum/post/2592815
From how long ago? Here is a quote from API, on stress coat, and what is on any current bottle.
Some of this actually happens, it is alright for FW fish because it spreads out in the water, unlike in dense salt water.
How current is your bottle seems my bottle states NOW NEW AND INPROVED I can take a picture of the bottle if you like the full quote is Detoxifies ammonia in tap water plus removes 33% more chlorine and 135% more chloramines then the original Stress Coat I am so loving this
 
sepulatian

sepulatian

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Originally Posted by florida joe
http:///forum/post/2592819
How current is your bottle seems my bottle states NOW NEW AND INPROVED I can take a picture of the bottle if you like
LOL no, that isn't necessary. I don't know what to tell you if that is what they are printing now. Stress coat is garbage. I used to use it at my store for FW fish. I never did like it. I used it once for salt and my skimmer went nuts for a day or two. Then I found out about it clogging gills. There is no reason for using it. There are better dechlorinaters that don't bother the system. The rest of what they claim is far fetched, at best IMO.
New and improved API seems alot thicker!!
This was all I could find on the "New and improved"
 
florida joe

florida joe

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Originally Posted by sepulatian
http:///forum/post/2592821
LOL no, that isn't necessary. I don't know what to tell you if that is what they are printing now. Stress coat is garbage. I used to use it at my store for FW fish. I never did like it. I used it once for salt and my skimmer went nuts for a day or two. Then I found out about it clogging gills. There is no reason for using it. There are better dechlorinaters that don't bother the system. The rest of what they claim is far fetched, at best IMO.
This was all I could find on the "New and improved"
Sir Q let me say in all due respect you could tell me the sky is falling and I would look for a fall out shelter. I agree the stuff is junk
 
sepulatian

sepulatian

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Originally Posted by florida joe
http:///forum/post/2592827
Sir Q let me say in all due respect you could tell me the sky is falling and I would look for a fall out shelter. I agree the stuff is junk
HAHA!!! You are so funny! I do not expect you to take my word for anything. I have used Stress Coat many times. I would never even add much to my FW tanks. It is goopy (yes, I use that word). When I found out about the use of it in SW and how it clogs their gills, it all made sense to me. The water is dense. It took time for it to disperse in FW. That goop in SW, going into the gills? Yikes! I only used it once in SW and that was more than enough for me.
 
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