Trying for ich free tank!

[jpa0741]

Let me list my setup first then describe how I plan on going about this.
92 gal
55 sump fuge/ wet/dry (see pics)
120 # ls
80 # lr between tank and sump/fuge
6 fish none over 3"
Some of the fish have come down with ick. I did not qt anything (I know). I do not have a qt cycled. I would like to clear my tank of any ich and save what fish I can.
My plan is to use a 20 gal I have add tank water and filter with the wet/dry I am currently using. Add fish, treat fish with hypo. Let main tank sit fishless for 6 weeks. Then slowly add them back.
Will the ich be present in the wet/dry when I get done using for hypo or will it need to sit fishless for 6 weeks. I know many will say not to use wet/dry but lets just say I want to add it back to main tank. Any problems with this, Jeff
Let me list my setup first then describe how I plan on going about this.
92 gal
55 sump fuge/ wet/dry (see pics)
120 # ls
80 # lr between tank and sump/fuge
6 fish none over 3"
Some of the fish have come down with ick. I did not qt anything (I know). I do not have a qt cycled. I would like to clear my tank of any ich and save what fish I can.
My plan is to use a 20 gal I have add tank water and filter with the wet/dry I am currently using. Add fish, treat fish with hypo. Let main tank sit fishless for 6 weeks. Then slowly add them back.
Will the ich be present in the wet/dry when I get done using for hypo or will it need to sit fishless for 6 weeks. I know many will say not to use wet/dry but lets just say I want to add it back to main tank. Any problems with this, Jeff
Let me list my setup first then describe how I plan on going about this.
92 gal
55 sump fuge/ wet/dry (see pics)
120 # ls
80 # lr between tank and sump/fuge
6 fish none over 3"
Some of the fish have come down with ick. I did not qt anything (I know). I do not have a qt cycled. I would like to clear my tank of any ich and save what fish I can.
My plan is to use a 20 gal I have add tank water and filter with the wet/dry I am currently using. Add fish, treat fish with hypo. Let main tank sit fishless for 6 weeks. Then slowly add them back.
Will the ich be present in the wet/dry when I get done using for hypo or will it need to sit fishless for 6 weeks. I know many will say not to use wet/dry but lets just say I want to add it back to main tank. Any problems with this, Jeff

 

[jpa0741]

oops sorry for repeating, not sure how I managed that!

 

[jpa0741]

Or could I remove lr from sump/fuge and add fish to it and hypo. Then plumb it back to main with out ich being present?

 

[lion_crazz]

Hm, I am not seeing any problems with you cutting off the wet/dry from the 92 and using it on your 20 gallon QT.Something does not sound totally right, but I can't find any holes in the plan.
Alright, so let me get this straightened out in my head. You are going to take the wet/dry off the 92, and put it on the 20. The 20 will not cycle because you are adding a lot of the biological from the 92 (bio balls in wet/dry). You are going to hypo the 20 and kill any ich that might be affecting the fish. This will also kill any ich that is in your wet/dry system. After 4 to 6 weeks, you will have killed all the ich in your main tank by letting that sit fishless. You would be able to put the wet/dry back onto the main tank because all the ich in there was killed by the hypo treatment.
Hm, everything sounds good. The only problems I have is that when you remove the wet/dry from the 92, you are going to have to add a cheap hang on the back filter or an extra powerhead to the main tank so that your levels do not spike and kill your live rock andl live sand. Also, anything living in the fuge (bristle worms, copepods, etc.) will die when you hypo the 20 gallon tank. They cannot tolerate low salinity levels.

 

[jpa0741]

The 20 gal is not the fuge it is a seperate tank with no lr. I would add the wet/dry to this. I was thinking that I would not need to add filter to main tank, I was hoping the 80# of lr rock and 120# of lr sand would take care of this. Let me know if you see ant other problems.

 

[lion_crazz]

No, I know the 20 is not the fuge but I see the fuge attached to the wet/dry in the above pic, isn't it?
You don't neccessarily need a filter for the main tank, but you definitely need plenty of water movement.

 

[beth]

If you set up a qt for fish, will they be compatible with each other for a month? And will you be able to work daily to keep that tank from cycling?
You can do either the above suggestion, or the opposite and remove your LR. Is all you have is LR, no inverts?

 

[jpa0741]

Originally Posted by lion_crazz
No, I know the 20 is not the fuge but I see the fuge attached to the wet/dry in the above pic, isn't it?
You don't neccessarily need a filter for the main tank, but you definitely need plenty of water movement.
I can remove wet dry from fuge and still use sump/fuge with main tank to help water movement.

 

[jpa0741]

Originally Posted by Beth
If you set up a qt for fish, will they be compatible with each other for a month? And will you be able to work daily to keep that tank from cycling?
You can do either the above suggestion, or the opposite and remove your LR. Is all you have is LR, no inverts?
Yes I beleive they would be compatible. Why would tank cycle if using wet/dry from main tank?
Yes I have shrimp, snails and crabs in main tank. Would hypo also kill ls.
Thanks for your help.

 

[drea]

that stop parasite worx?????? idk... i have a kole, 2 clown gobies and a yellow goby in my qt..... should i go ahead and just hypo them? or can i leave them in there a good month and see if ich shows up?
i guess the question is, will ich show up if they have it? otherwise i will def hypo b4 adding to the main...
(sorry if i hijacked the thread)

 

[lion_crazz]

Why are the fish in your QT? New additions or did they have a parasitic problem?

 

[drea]

they are new additions..... :cheer:

 

[lion_crazz]

I was just keep a very close eye on them then. If you notice any spots, any scratching, labored breathing, you may have reason to be concerned.
If you got them at the LFS, did you notice other fish in the same system with any parasites?

 

[jpa0741]

Put all fish in 20g qt yesterday using wet/dry from main. Started lowering sg, will lower to 1.009 over next couple days. Then maintain this for 6 weeks. While keeping an eye on levels and checking ph daily. Then after the 6 weeks SLOWLY raise sg over a week or so back to main sg. Then acclimate them back to main (not all at once of course). All this should leave the main tank fishless for about 8 weeks. Then make sure I qt any new fish for a least 4 weeks.
Does this sound like a good plan to get rid of any ich? I am hoping this is correct.
Thanks for your help, Jeff

 

[lion_crazz]

Absolutely perfect. Sounds stress-free and very conscientious.
The only thing I would change is that I would keep the fish in hypo for 3-4 weeks, instead of 6. 6 may be a little too long for the fish to handle.

 

[jpa0741]

Originally Posted by lion_crazz
Absolutely perfect. Sounds stress-free and very conscientious.
The only thing I would change is that I would keep the fish in hypo for 3-4 weeks, instead of 6. 6 may be a little too long for the fish to handle.
Thanks for the help, will keep you updated on progress.
Jeff

 

[drea]

my lfs is great, don't notice a thing... i just don't want any ich, thats why i may go ahead and hypo them,,, but will ich develop if they =have it? or can it come later? thats why i just might hypo to mkae sure i kill it just in case

 

[lion_crazz]

If they have ich, it will develop, but you will need to keep an extremely close eye to catch it sometimes. Sometimes, it only shows up as one or two dots, and then it falls off the fish's body. Just keep a careful eye on the tank. If you don't see any ich or any signs of it within the 3 weeks, I would say hypo is not neccessary. If you do, I would then do the hypo, not before.
There is no reason to stress the fish out if it is unneccessary.

 

[drea]

ok cool, i'll keep them in there a good 4 weeks and see what happens, so far they are doing great, very active and eating!
thanx again!

 

[lion_crazz]

Originally Posted by drea
ok cool, i'll keep them in there a good 4 weeks and see what happens, so far they are doing great, very active and eating!
thanx again!

No problem! Keep me posted on their progress!