trying to create sps rock

coralreefer

Active Member
hi,
i recently bought a medium sized hot pink birds nest coral and want to frag of some 1/2 in. pieces and glue them to the rock the detachted mother colony is on. i eventually want this rock to be covered in pink sps, so any tips would be REALLY helpful.
any tips on how big the pieces should be?
how many pieces to frag?
what is the chance that this will work?
thanks in advance
 

snakeblitz33

Well-Known Member
Before you go fragging a coral into tiny pieces after you just got it... let it adjust.
Keep it in the tank for a few months to see how it does before you go cutting it into pieces.
Once you do cut it up into pieces, you should cut them into at least 1 1/2" to 2" frags. Use super glue gel to glue them to the rocks. Try not to damage the tissue around the cut.
 

spanko

Active Member
Try laying the frags down onthe rock instead of standing them up. There is evidence that doing so lets more corallites be exposed to the upward position and more branches growing from a single pc. Think of them in the wild, when a pc. breaks and falls to the floor of the ocean it does not land tankding on the broken end.
 

coralreefer

Active Member
well its been in my tank for about 2 1/2 months. so 1 1/2 in. pieces? should i glue them standing up or laying down?
thanks for the help guys!
 

spanko

Active Member
Here is a good read from Anthony Calfo
Quote;
"BREAKING STICKS
Heehee... the most common endeavers of coral fragmentation to date have largely been with digitate stony corals like Acropora and Montipora digitata... finger Porites, etc.
And to date, the most common way of fixing these frags to a substrate as been to glue, epoxy, insert (into a hole) or otherwise position the finger of a frag in an UPRIGHT position like a planted tree.
Yet do consider how unnatural this is. Can you imagine how many frags created on the reef by various water, weather/storm or animal damage... actually sink and settle - voila! - in a planted an upright position? Ahhh... not many, if any
More importantly, as it pertains to optimizing fragmentation techniques... the vertical orientation of a frag severely handicaps the potential for growth that accumulates total mass overall.
You have heard perhaps of other means for optimizing growth for mass? See my article index for links to an older Reefkeeping.com article on suspension growth of corals... there are some threads here on -- too from over one year ago on the same subject. You can grow more mass faster by suspending a coral on string since the colony will get more water flow all ways around and more light (refracted off sand and aquarium walls/substrates to the underside of the coral). But indeed... few folks will have the space or the desire to string corals.
So addressing the typical keeping of frags on substrates, let's look at an example:
Imagine a 2"/5cm single branch frag of Acropora.
"Planted" in an upright and vertical position, the axial tip of the branch continues to get the best light and water flow and grows the fastest.
But do you know what's better than a nice little fast growing axial corallite? Several of them: Lay the frag down horizontally.
Laying down horizontally... that 2" frag now has tens of secondary corallites now exposed to better water flow and light (especially) for being out from under the "shadow" of the vertical orientation. On this horizontal branch you will get at least several new branches that will each grow at the same or better pace than the single axial branch of a vertically fixed branch.
But do you know what's better than several new branches growing from a horizontal 2" frag? Two times the number of branches! And we get this by simply splitting the branch in half bilaterally (like a bananna split). Thus... we get 4-6 new branches off of both pieces laying down horizontally with their cut sides face down... instead of just several from the whole uncut branch laying down horizontally.
But do you know what's better than 4-6 new branches off of a bilaterally split coral frag? 20+ branches! And we get this by instead sawing the 2"/5 cm frag into say five 10mm disks/wafers! (done with a thin wet tile saw blade or lapidary saw blade as some of you have seen Eric Borneman or myself do in frag workshops... see 2005 IMAC and/or MACNA DVDs).
Each wafer of stony coral can be placed on a new hard substrate with a dab of glue and the topside cut edge will be stimulated to cover with new tissue and form at least several (if not more) branches in the process.
So comparing the growth on the same 2"/5cm Acropora frag in a single month between:
-vertical frag with single axial tip
-horizontal frag with several new branches
-split horizontal frag with 2X several branches
-4-5 10mm wafer cuts of the frag which each produce several+ branches
... the productivity is remarkable.
What great differences in the total amount of mass (and ultimately salable/tradable) corals produced!
This is the sort of mindful examination of our techniques we must continue to do as we collectively advance the hobby
Let's use this thread as one small place to add ideas and discussion about improving coral propagation techniques.
With kind regards, Anthony"
 

wangotango

Active Member
+1 on the horizontal mounting.
Along with what Calfo said, IME the frags grow faster this way too.
-Justin
 

coralreefer

Active Member
wow....
long post. im going to lay it horizontally to create multiple branches like he said. thats actually a great idea!
 

coralreefer

Active Member
well,
i just found one of my dying birdsnests and i mounted it horizontally. it's about 1 in. long. i still have yet to frag the pink birdsnest because i have to upgrade my T5's to better quality bulbs (check my "time to replace T5 bulbs" thread in the lighting, equipement, and DIY section) and i have to buy these sps fragging pliers (link):
http://www.customaquatic.com/estore/...uct=PT-CABSS45
are these good for fragging sps?
 
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