ulcer on anemone

gregvabch

Active Member
my anemone has an ulcer like sore on it's base, i've had it for about a week. i checked it when i bought it and it appeared to be fine. trates=2ppm. trites=0ppm. ammonia=0ppm. ph=8.2. can anyone tell me what this is on his base and if he's doomed?
 

gregvabch

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so there's nothing i can do except watch him die? why are "host" anemone's so hard to take care of? what would the ideal conditions be for one to flourish in the home aquarium?
 
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simm

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What kind of lighting do you have? Thats what I would be looking at if your water is in good shape. Most anonemes require extream lighting.
 

wrassecal

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Unfortunately, like TerryB said, it seems to be pretty much of a gonner. Not only does it have the "ulcer" but it has no xooanthellae and does not appear (in pic at least) to be attached to anything. I don't know what size your tank is but you could be risking your livestock. Sorry.
 

finland

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From the pic, the anemone looks like it is lying on it's side, so we are looking at it's foot. It looks like the foot might have been torn,possibly from pulling it off whatever it was attached to. Anemone with a torn foot will not usually survive. Sorry.
 

gregvabch

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how can you tell that it does not have xooanthellae? that's what the coloring is that they use for protection from the sunlight right? it's got plenty, it's probably deceiving since i took the picture while the light was off. i did some research before i bought it and it says that long tentacle anemones like to bury their foot into sandbeds, so there's no problem there. the picture is a side shot, he's in a corner up against the glass. he's not in a spot wide enough for him to fully open up, so it looks like he's laying on his side, but that's the spot he chose. i checked the base before i bought it and there were no visable abrasions or "booger looking things", as my LFS refers to them as. it doesn't appear to be torn, it's some kind of sore. i've got 440 watts from my VHO's pumping into the tank as well.
 

wrassecal

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It doesn't look like has it's xooanthellae because it's white. Xoo is almost always a brownish color in the tentacles. Even the whitish seabeas sold at lfs's often brown up as they regain their health. I'm sorry your anenome is in trouble. Have you tried to feed it a piece of shrimp or krill or anything? If so did it eat it?
 

gregvabch

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yeah i've tried, he doesn't seem very interested. it almost seems as if he's healing up, so i'm keeping my fingers crossed.
 

spsfreak100

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gregvabch,
It's a goner. Anemones are all extremely difficult to take care of. I would say around 90% of them die within the first three months of being in captivity. The tear you pointed out will most likely not heal and it will continue to get larger and larger.
so there's nothing i can do except watch him die?
Correct.
what would the ideal conditions be for one to flourish in the home aquarium?
Nobody really knows the trick to keep anemones sucessfully. I would personally say that correct lighting, good water conditions, medium flow rates and a mature aquarium (over 7 months of age) would help in keeping them alive.
it has no xooanthellae
Here's one word that almost everyone spells wrong- Zooxanthellae (Pronounced Zoo-Zan-THELL-E) is the proper way to spell it. Just for future reference.
It looks like the foot might have been torn,possibly from pulling it off whatever it was attached to.
Seeing tears in its foot is usually a sign of high amounts of stress, although it could possibly be torn while the anemone was moving around the rockwork, or when it was plucked out of the ocean to be put in an aquarium.
i checked the base before i bought it and there were no visable abrasions or "booger looking things",
Now that you said that, the tear is from high amounts of stress.
how can you tell that it does not have xooanthellae?
Zooxanthellae is brown. White anemones usually have no zooxanthellae, and are completely dependant on supplimental meaty foods to live.
he doesn't seem very interested
Try Silver sides and lancefish. This is what they are usually fed in the wild, along with krill. Diced squid and clams are also their natural diet.
It doesn't look like has it's xooanthellae because it's white.
Well, I wouldn't say that yours has no zooxanthellae. I've seen greyish Long tentacle anemones thriving in captivity. Yours looks like it does have zooxanthellae, but I cannot really tell. A picture of the oral disc should help in telling weither or not the anemone still has zooxanthellae.
Take Care,
Graham
 

wrassecal

Active Member

Originally posted by SPSfreak100

Here's one word that almost everyone spells wrong- Zooxanthellae (Pronounced Zoo-Zan-THELL-E) is the proper way to spell it. Just for future reference.

:p :rolleyes: :p
ZoooooooZannnnnTHELLLLL-EEEEEEEEE I've repeated it 20 times and I think I've got it now......there will be a test, right?
Greg how's the anenome?
 

broncofish

Active Member
I can't tell from your pic for sure.....but it looks like a Ritteri from Kenya...which are white with yellow tips. By any chance do you have an exposed heater, it is quite possible that could be a heater burn. If it is a Ritteri they will wander until they find a spot with intense light, and RANDOM VERY STRONG currents..notice the big key words being RANDOM, and STRONG. If that condition does not exist in your tank it will constantly move. If you don't have intense lighting, and a way to set up random currents it will be a goner regardless of it healing. If you have any pics from the front, or different angles it would be greatly appreciated. LTA also can be white, but if it is any other kind of anemone and it's that white with a wound on it's foot.....well it does not look good.
 

spsfreak100

Active Member
broncofish,
The Long tentacle anemone always has a colored foot, which isn't common in other species of anemones. I say it's a long tentacle, but that's only my opinion.
Take Care,
Graham
 

gregvabch

Active Member
ok, i'm pretty disappointed in all the pessimistic responses that i received over the past couple weeks pertaining to my long tentacle anemone. i'm assuming the reason for all the negativity is because, in general, we don't know a whole lot about anemones. for starters, there is NO tear in the foot or the base, it is a sore that, for the record, is healing. i am very happy about this. he is actually doing pretty well. my clown can't get enough of him. as far as the ritteri from kenya goes, my anemone is the complete opposite. he has remained in the same place since i got him on the 3rd, and just last night he moved back into the corner where there's even less current. he looks really good though. although i was frustrated, i do appreciate the responses, advice, and information supplied by the "salty" cats on this website. i'll post some pics of him soon if anybody is still interested! greg
p.s. zoooooooooooooooo-zzzaannnnn-th-th-thelllllllll-eeeeeeee:)
 

cb

Member
:) Glad to hear that it is doing better. Let us know how it is doing in the future I for one am always interested in sucess stories on anemones since I to own one and love it. They are very beautiful when happy.
 

broncofish

Active Member

Originally posted by SPSfreak100
broncofish,
The Long tentacle anemone always has a colored foot, which isn't common in other species of anemones. I say it's a long tentacle, but that's only my opinion.
Take Care,
Graham

Hey graham, I feel liek a dunce beside the base being that color it also has verrucae, strickly an LTA thing, I was so busy checking out the white arms, and the yellow markings I over looked the obviouse
gregvabch
The reason I thought it was an injury is that it looks like it is casting a shadow in the wound. I hope I did not sound negative in my post, I am a believer that all to often people advise members on this board to remove anemones, well befor giving them a chance to heal...anyway glad to her it is doing better, good luck with the LTA...:D Cheers
 

wrassecal

Active Member
Greg - glad to see it's healing. Some of the best things I read on the boards is when something that appears to be a lost cause makes a rebound because of the research and diligence of a commited hobbyist:cool: I have a bta that has split twice over the past year and a half. I'm not anti-anenome at all. I love mine.
Off-Topic - I notice you are in the Navy. I have 2 sons in the Marines. One in Kuwait and one in Okinawa. The one in Kuwait has learned a new respect for the Navy since most of his group left a couple months ago and now he's stationed with Navy guys. Good news is they are all coming home in a couple of weeks.:D
 

gregvabch

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sorry i took so long to respond. glad to hear that he's coming home, that's always good news. as far as the anemone's go, i can understand why the serious marine hobbyist frowns upon collecting them since there are so many casualities. my favorite lfs has a bubble tip that is huge! they've got it in a 30 gallon with a big ol' gold striped maroon and it's taken over the whole tank, split 3 or 4 times. they said when they got it, it was only 3 or 4 inches in diameter. it's pretty neat!
 

wrassecal

Active Member
I'm a serious marine hobbyist:D I just like anenomes. I especially like that I've been able to share my tank raised ones. It is becoming easier now to get tank raised/propagated anenomes especially bta's.
Just found out today my son in Kuwait arrives in Yuma on July 23rd. I am so excited!!!
 
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