Undergravel filters

emmylou

New Member
What is so wrong with UG filters in a marine aquarium? I've read so negative posts over the last few days without anyone explaining what negative aspect (nitrate fluctuations?) they cause and why. Thanks for the info in advance.
 

wamp

Active Member
Nothing really wrong with them. They just require regular routine maintance and are not very efficent in the nitrogen cycle.
They do not help with nitrates eitheir. If clogged or not cleaned reguarly, you stand the chance of losing everything in the tank. Live sand is widely being accepted as a better means. It not only looks more natrul but, if done correctly, can help reduce nitrates. It also provides a better place to house critters that are benefical to your tank.
If your looking for filtration, Live rock is quite possibly the best way to go. It not only looks good, it serves very well is filtration. It provides multiple places for bacteria to grow, and also provides a place for the fish to pick at food.
A wet/dry filter is a much better way to have an artifical filter to your tank rather than a UGF. Due to the fact it usually requires plumbing and a stronger pump is what steers some away from it. Not to mention the cost, but it is cheaper than Live rock, depending on the tank size.
In conclusion, If you like maintance and keep up with it, A UGF will work. However you must keep your Bio-Load low and constantly maintani the pumps. You must watch your nitrates to keep them in check due to the fact they will only be removed by water changes and not through the filtration.
 

slick

Active Member
Well said Wamp.
I would like to add that with an ugf you have tubes running down the back of the tank. I hate to see things in my tank like that.
 

emmylou

New Member
Thanks for the info. It sounds like an UG filter alone will not be sufficient. I have approx. 1lb/gal of live rock plus a pengiun biowheel filter. Will the nitrates be more stable if I turn off the UG or will it not hurt with the additional filtration operating? By the way, the nitrates have been ranging between 0-100 ppm.
 

wamp

Active Member
To be honest, if your tank has not cycled, I would pull the plates out of the bottom. If you leave them in, it will be a detrius build up place.
If your tank is already established, you really have no choice but to leave them in and just rember to vacum it monthly. You could remove them if you want, but it will cause a huge cloud and a mess in the tank.
 

slick

Active Member

Originally posted by emmylou
By the way, the nitrates have been ranging between 0-100 ppm.

WOW thats a big swing. Most people will say that anything over 20ppm is to high. This is JMO but I think you should remove the UGF and put in a DSB.
 

emmylou

New Member
Sorry, a typo. I meant 0-10 ppm, not 100. The tank has already cycled and I have what looks to be happy inhabitants. It will stay for now. Thanks for the input.
 
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