Urgent! Got RemoraPro and Prefilter

beth

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Ok, I got the RemoraPro with the new prefilter. Optioned for the Mag3. However, the Mag3 [which weighs alot BTW] doesn't seem to FIT into the prefilter.
Anyone have this? Or have any ideas?
LOL
 

beth

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Yeah, you're right Ed...I figured that out with a bit more research. Do you have the RPro?
As it turns out this prefilter is really big. And a prefilter for the Mag will even be bigger [depth] which will take up too much room in my tank. The other option is the Rio [which will fit this filter] however, there are so many bad experiences with hobbyists involving the Rio that I'm leary of going with option.
You have any first-hand insight about how the Rio works with the RPro? Perhaps I should just get the downgrade to the Remora with the Maxi...which has a smaller prefilter and will take less space up in my 12"D tank. Insights?
 

beth

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That was helpful, Ed. You're always helpful.
So you are using the Mag and haven't tried the maxi? If I go with Maxi, then I might as well pay less [and take up less space with the smaller prefilter] and turn the Pro in and get the smaller Remora. The maxis are made for the smaller skimmer, I believe, not the Pro.
What do you think?
Anybody have a Pro and using Rio? What's the results, if so?
 

beth

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The Mag is a problem Ed, due to size, but I got this skimmer cause of the prefilter and wanting to address the surface oil you mentioned. The prefilter for the Mag is 4.25"D!! Too big for the back of my tank. If I put that, I would have to rearrange reef structure and it will also take up a lot of room where I thought my fish might have liked to swim. LOL This filter is huge! And FAT. Its fatter than the skimmer itself! LOL
Are the Rio's noisy??
 

beth

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Yeah, well I didn't want to hear that, Ed..... I know they explode in the tank. You would think that the manufacture would have fixed that problem by now. Some people swear by those pumps. I just bought a 50gph to use to clean off my corals a bit. Boy the housing is cheap junk, but that's the smallest one they make. It looks like a pump for a gold fish bowl...and about the same quality too.
Do you believe the 1400 pulls more gph than the Mag3? <img src="graemlins//yeahright.gif" border="0" alt="[yeahright]" />
 

beth

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This prefilter is big enough for a hangon refugium. LOL Actually, it is designed so that if you want to put some media in it, like carbon, you can. I'd prefer a smaller prefilter, though.
BTW: I don't know if you've seen a prizm, but the reaction chamber for the prizm and the remora is the same. The Remora is just bigger.
 

beth

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Your skimmer flows into a sump?
The plus with the prizm is that the pump is outside, so you don't have a bunch of clutter in the tank.
I put the prefilter in the tank to see how it would fit, and it does fit, barely. It also blends in with the background so you really can't see it unless you're looking hard.
I bet my snails are going to love exploring the inside of that contraption....hopefully they will be able to get out!
They make those skinny box skimmers cause most folks have their tanks backed up against the wall and by the time they figure out that they need a skimmer, its too late to move the tank out. Presto, the box skimmers like prizm and Remora. I set my tank in a corner so that I have enough room to get behind the tank.
 

krusk

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beth
how do you like your new Renora Pro hang-on skimmer? is it worth the money?
thanks for your input
 

broomer5

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Okay you guys and gal.
Here's a "what if" question and possible alternative.
This is a long stretch for sure - but I will continue on anyway even though there's a slim chance of this working.
I have little fear of trying new things - even at the risk of looking foolish.
I am not 100% familiar with the RemoraPro, and especially it's spray induction system, and don't have dimensions either, so if the following sounds like a ridiculous approach - just let it be that, and please disregard.
What if you took the Mag3 and mounted it at near the water level in the tank, so as it's discharge port was pointing down and it's inlet suction port was pointing out horizontally along the rear length of the tank. Inlet port under water naturally, as well as the discharge port. If you were to then come off the normal place you would install the pump on the Remora, with an elbow with flex tubing or piping, and ran a small length of this tubing or piping up to the Mag3 discharge port, would it even function properly, or just start sucking air.
My thoughts are more of a DIY modification - which would include using a length of pvc pipe ( 1/2" or 3/4" diameter ) and running this along the back side of the tank to some length, with holes drilled every inch or so, that would allow for some surface water removal, and may not stick so far down in view in the tank.
This would eliminate the need for the big bulky prefilter/surface skimmer furnished with your unit Beth.
When I look at my tank - I don't "see" the very top inch or two in the back of the tank, unless I am kneeling down at "tank" level for viewing.
The canopy would hide this abominable contraption from the top view of your tank.
The pump would still be partially submerged in the tank water for cooling, and may draw some surface water through the pvc pipe surface skimming gizmo as well. It would probably look like a "rigged" set up I'm almost sure, and possibly not even work. I can see some major tinkering with it to get it to the right depth, and even if it did work, water top offs would be critical from that point on.
My fear is that this arrangement may suck air if not positioned deep enough, the pump may be noisy, and that if some air does enter the pump housing - it will make a lot of noise and cause problems. Also I have reservations about how this arrangement would affect the performance of the skimmer itself.
I don't know.
As I said - sort of a long stretch idea that may very well not even be worth the time it took to type it here. It may look ugly as sin as well.
 

reeferx

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heh. Broomer your funny. Ugly as sin! Hell, that could be worth a shot though.
If not, and if rio is out, aren't there ~other~ pumps out there that may work well?
You may pay a premium for the name, but the first one that came to mind for me was an Eheim. Looking at their site, the 1250 is rated at 1200 liters an hour, which appears to work out at 317+ an hour. Is that too little since the ones you mentioned are around 350? Well for what it's worth, the dimensions are 7.1 x 3.8 x 4.7 in.

I really don't know what you are working with, I guess I just want to suggest that there may be other pumps that could work as well.
 

beth

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Krusk: I haven't installed it yet cause I'm waiting to exchange the Mag3 for the Rio. It is much bigger than I expected, but the largeness of the skimmer doesn't bother me. I have plenty of room for it hanging off the back. It is the largeness of the prefilter that has me boggled. And, the Mag3 prefilter is even bigger! Like I said, you could actually setup a refugium in there! LOL I will let you know how it does once its up and running. I might attach a maxijet to it this weekend just to give it a try. The baseline Remora is rated for the Maxi but I guess I can give it a try on the Pro while I wait for the Rio.
Broomer, as for DIY projects, you lost me after the first 3 sentences! LOL Not sure how I got to mod this forum?? Must be based on my charm and overall intelligence...! :D
However, if you DIY guys want to hack it out, I'd be glad to measure the dimentions and give you the info to work on.
Broomer, if you insist on me having a sump, then build one for me and ship it down! A sump is beginning to look good at this point!
And for all you prizm lovers, I have to say that this little piece of cheap equiptment does work significantly better on a reef tank then it ever did on my FO. In fact, I'd have say it works probably over 50% better. I always wondered why everyone but me thought that the prizms are so good. Now I know. They are fairly good for reefs, if you can't afford $100+ for a skimmer.
Reef, that pump might just work if I don't like the Rio. However, the point of getting the Pro rather than the baseline skimmer, was to get more power going. So, the more gph the better. Rio 1400 is actually rated a bit higher on gph than the Mag3.
 

broomer5

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Well there's a healthy challenge Beth !
One I just may do - providing you foot the bill for the overflow and return pump - I can pretty much handle the rest from here ( which would only cost me around $40 bucks or so ) and have to skip one good dinner out on the town this month for me and my significant other.
My girlfirend may say to me " what are you making now " with that one eyebrow higher than the other look she so often gives me ..... and I would just reply ... it's a shark thang !
Then I may start marketing these sumps under the company name of;
"Ugly-As-Sin Creations" and see what happens.
 

beth

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LOL...Between your sump and Jims computer, my fellow Sharks are going to put me in the Poor House!
:D
But, just for conversation's sake, you can post the details in your Beth's sump thread in the Shark Tank.
LOL
 

beth

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Not at all Reef! Please post away! As for your suggestion, if I don't like the Rio, I will be looking for an alternative. I appreciate the info and will be revisiting your post here if the Rio is not to my liking.
 
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