darthtang aw
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Get rid of the corporate tax. Replace it with an import 10% Tariff.
Want to create U.S. jobs? I have a proposal.
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reefraff
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Bang's idea gives companies the incentive to have as much of their workforce based in the US as possible. I actually like the idea of a flat corporate tax that is reduced by the percentage of their payroll subject to us income taxes. I have no problem with a company not paying a corporate tax if 100% of their payroll is here in the US. The government would likely make more money through the increased economic activity here and increased employment.
silverado61
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How about this idea:
Instead of pouring so much money into the "War on Drugs" trying to take down all these drug lords (which we're losing anyway), Why not put some of that money into strengthening our borders and deport all the "illegal aliens". The hiring of more immigration officers alone will create jobs. And fine any company caught employing these illegals so they don't have to pay as much? First offense, $5,000.00 for each illegal caught working for them. Second offense, $10,000.00 for each illegal caught working for them and so on. Keep patrolling these company's till they just give up and start checking for legal status and employ Americans or go out of business. And don't tell me that illegals are the only ones that will take these jobs. Who took these jobs 20-30 years ago when jumping the border wasn't so rampant?
I'm sorry other countries have it so hard. I really am. But what about our country? Shouldn't we put our affairs in order first then worry about helping them?
If they want to live here, tell them do it the right way. Like OUR ancestors did. By LEGAL immigration.
Then put a dated time limit on able bodied people that refuse to work because it's easier for them just to get a link card, section 8 and the medical card.
I think the crime rate would also drop somewhat, along with drug sales, because a portion of the unemployed just can't find jobs and turn to stealing from people and selling drugs as a means of making money to support their families. I know people like this. Their good people. They want a job. They just can't find one and are more than willing to take a job raking leaves, mow lawns, work on an assembly line or drive forklifts.
Instead of pouring so much money into the "War on Drugs" trying to take down all these drug lords (which we're losing anyway), Why not put some of that money into strengthening our borders and deport all the "illegal aliens". The hiring of more immigration officers alone will create jobs. And fine any company caught employing these illegals so they don't have to pay as much? First offense, $5,000.00 for each illegal caught working for them. Second offense, $10,000.00 for each illegal caught working for them and so on. Keep patrolling these company's till they just give up and start checking for legal status and employ Americans or go out of business. And don't tell me that illegals are the only ones that will take these jobs. Who took these jobs 20-30 years ago when jumping the border wasn't so rampant?
I'm sorry other countries have it so hard. I really am. But what about our country? Shouldn't we put our affairs in order first then worry about helping them?
If they want to live here, tell them do it the right way. Like OUR ancestors did. By LEGAL immigration.
Then put a dated time limit on able bodied people that refuse to work because it's easier for them just to get a link card, section 8 and the medical card.
I think the crime rate would also drop somewhat, along with drug sales, because a portion of the unemployed just can't find jobs and turn to stealing from people and selling drugs as a means of making money to support their families. I know people like this. Their good people. They want a job. They just can't find one and are more than willing to take a job raking leaves, mow lawns, work on an assembly line or drive forklifts.
reefraff
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I grew up in the middle of the height of the drug culture as someone who didn't like getting loaded but many of my friends did. I am all for legalizing MJ but NEVER the other stuff. I've seen enough lives ruined by hard drugs. We have enough people screwing up their lives with alcohol, I see no reason to throw gas on that fire.
Dealing should be a minimum of a decade behind bars and the users should face rehab not jail. Fight smart not hard.
Dealing should be a minimum of a decade behind bars and the users should face rehab not jail. Fight smart not hard.
2quills
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How about this idea:
Instead of pouring so much money into the "War on Drugs" trying to take down all these drug lords (which we're losing anyway), Why not put some of that money into strengthening our borders and deport all the "illegal aliens". The hiring of more immigration officers alone will create jobs. And fine any company caught employing these illegals so they don't have to pay as much? First offense, $5,000.00 for each illegal caught working for them. Second offense, $10,000.00 for each illegal caught working for them and so on. Keep patrolling these company's till they just give up and start checking for legal status and employ Americans or go out of business. And don't tell me that illegals are the only ones that will take these jobs. Who took these jobs 20-30 years ago when jumping the border wasn't so rampant?
I'm sorry other countries have it so hard. I really am. But what about our country? Shouldn't we put our affairs in order first then worry about helping them?
If they want to live here, tell them do it the right way. Like OUR ancestors did. By LEGAL immigration.
Then put a dated time limit on able bodied people that refuse to work because it's easier for them just to get a link card, section 8 and the medical card.
I think the crime rate would also drop somewhat, along with drug sales, because a portion of the unemployed just can't find jobs and turn to stealing from people and selling drugs as a means of making money to support their families. I know people like this. Their good people. They want a job. They just can't find one and are more than willing to take a job raking leaves, mow lawns, work on an assembly line or drive forklifts.
I'd simply be happy with granting amnesty for the ones already here but close down the boarders for a while. There are probably some seriously expensive and dificult logistics involved with tracking them all down, rounding em up and simply dumping them back in mexico which could cause other issues. This way it doesn't seem so harsh and everyone still benefits. Mexico is pretty rough. I don't blame people for not wanting to live there.
Instead of pouring so much money into the "War on Drugs" trying to take down all these drug lords (which we're losing anyway), Why not put some of that money into strengthening our borders and deport all the "illegal aliens". The hiring of more immigration officers alone will create jobs. And fine any company caught employing these illegals so they don't have to pay as much? First offense, $5,000.00 for each illegal caught working for them. Second offense, $10,000.00 for each illegal caught working for them and so on. Keep patrolling these company's till they just give up and start checking for legal status and employ Americans or go out of business. And don't tell me that illegals are the only ones that will take these jobs. Who took these jobs 20-30 years ago when jumping the border wasn't so rampant?
I'm sorry other countries have it so hard. I really am. But what about our country? Shouldn't we put our affairs in order first then worry about helping them?
If they want to live here, tell them do it the right way. Like OUR ancestors did. By LEGAL immigration.
Then put a dated time limit on able bodied people that refuse to work because it's easier for them just to get a link card, section 8 and the medical card.
I think the crime rate would also drop somewhat, along with drug sales, because a portion of the unemployed just can't find jobs and turn to stealing from people and selling drugs as a means of making money to support their families. I know people like this. Their good people. They want a job. They just can't find one and are more than willing to take a job raking leaves, mow lawns, work on an assembly line or drive forklifts.
I'd simply be happy with granting amnesty for the ones already here but close down the boarders for a while. There are probably some seriously expensive and dificult logistics involved with tracking them all down, rounding em up and simply dumping them back in mexico which could cause other issues. This way it doesn't seem so harsh and everyone still benefits. Mexico is pretty rough. I don't blame people for not wanting to live there.
reefraff
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Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///t/397672/want-to-create-u-s-jobs-i-have-a-proposal#post_3545441
I'd simply be happy with granting amnesty for the ones already here but close down the boarders for a while. There are probably some seriously expensive and dificult logistics involved with tracking them all down, rounding em up and simply dumping them back in mexico which could cause other issues. This way it doesn't seem so harsh and everyone still benefits. Mexico is pretty rough. I don't blame people for not wanting to live there.
Not that hard. Require proof of legal residency to obtain public services of any kind (including parents applying for welfare for their anchor babies) and come up with actual penalties for those who hire illegals. We'll never get them all out but a significant number will leave and it would take away the incentive for more to come. I'd also do a dream act for any kid who was brought here before their 13th birthday and graduated high school here but require they have real proof when they got here, school records. Leave that system in place for a year then talk to me about amnesty.
Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///t/397672/want-to-create-u-s-jobs-i-have-a-proposal#post_3545441
I'd simply be happy with granting amnesty for the ones already here but close down the boarders for a while. There are probably some seriously expensive and dificult logistics involved with tracking them all down, rounding em up and simply dumping them back in mexico which could cause other issues. This way it doesn't seem so harsh and everyone still benefits. Mexico is pretty rough. I don't blame people for not wanting to live there.
Not that hard. Require proof of legal residency to obtain public services of any kind (including parents applying for welfare for their anchor babies) and come up with actual penalties for those who hire illegals. We'll never get them all out but a significant number will leave and it would take away the incentive for more to come. I'd also do a dream act for any kid who was brought here before their 13th birthday and graduated high school here but require they have real proof when they got here, school records. Leave that system in place for a year then talk to me about amnesty.
darthtang aw
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Currently the U.S. has the highest corporate tax rate in the world. Sure there are right off options, but most countries have the same. Bang's idea is good...but won't affect anything. Britain has a coporate tax rate of 20%. If I have a higher percentage of over seas employees than 20%, I just move my headquarters to Britain. Boom. No issue. Several U.S. Based corporations have done just that in the past several years. Now there is Rumor Phizer may be doing the same in conjunction with a British Pharmacuetical buy out. If Phizer moves their corporate headquarters out of the U.S. They save over 1 billion in corporate taxes.
Now, to compensate for the revenue loss for corporate taxes initially we would need to impose a 10% import tariff. This would equal out even.
Long term, an import tax will make corporations begin to seriously look at the cost of manufacturing goods over seas. Most, to maintain their profit margins, would begin manufacturing in the U.S. since we are the largest consumer of goods in the world. Or they would pay the tariff.
By doing so we move trade/skill jobs back to the U.S. We also in turn eliminate the immigration issue. The largest problem with immigration is job availability. If what I believe would happen did happen, immigrants would no longer be affecting the labor market.
Now, to compensate for the revenue loss for corporate taxes initially we would need to impose a 10% import tariff. This would equal out even.
Long term, an import tax will make corporations begin to seriously look at the cost of manufacturing goods over seas. Most, to maintain their profit margins, would begin manufacturing in the U.S. since we are the largest consumer of goods in the world. Or they would pay the tariff.
By doing so we move trade/skill jobs back to the U.S. We also in turn eliminate the immigration issue. The largest problem with immigration is job availability. If what I believe would happen did happen, immigrants would no longer be affecting the labor market.
2quills
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Not that hard. Require proof of legal residency to obtain public services of any kind (including parents applying for welfare for their anchor babies) and come up with actual penalties for those who hire illegals. We'll never get them all out but a significant number will leave and it would take away the incentive for more to come. I'd also do a dream act for any kid who was brought here before their 13th birthday and graduated high school here but require they have real proof when they got here, school records. Leave that system in place for a year then talk to me about amnesty.
Some good ideas. I just know that America's demand for drugs is a big reason why many flee to come here to escape the violence down there associated with the drug industry.
Some good ideas. I just know that America's demand for drugs is a big reason why many flee to come here to escape the violence down there associated with the drug industry.
reefraff
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One thing the left wingers might accept would be requiring say 75% of a corporate workforce be in the US and no more than like 1% of those employees in the US earning below 150% of the current US poverty rate and no more than 5% below 200% then the company would be exempt from corporate taxes. Numbers could all be tweaked but it would be an interesting trade off. The government gives up tax revenue from the corp but gets savings on welfare programs as well as additional tax money from individuals. I don't see how the feds wouldn't see an increase in revenues regardless of the savings on social programs. I think the only losers would be the 3rd world $^%# holes we outsource our jobs too.
reefraff
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Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///t/397672/want-to-create-u-s-jobs-i-have-a-proposal#post_3545447
Some good ideas. I just know that America's demand for drugs is a big reason why many flee to come here to escape the violence down there associated with the drug industry.
Yeah but its nearly all weed and cocaine. The weed we can easily produce here, the coke not so much so legalizing it isn't going to do anything but increase demand down there.
Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///t/397672/want-to-create-u-s-jobs-i-have-a-proposal#post_3545447
Some good ideas. I just know that America's demand for drugs is a big reason why many flee to come here to escape the violence down there associated with the drug industry.
Yeah but its nearly all weed and cocaine. The weed we can easily produce here, the coke not so much so legalizing it isn't going to do anything but increase demand down there.
darthtang aw
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legalization of weed would only drop cartel income by 20-30% While nothing to sneeze at, the majority of their income comes from extortion and Cocaine.
darthtang aw
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This is an insane amount of money not being used in our economy.
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887324034804578348131432634740
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887324034804578348131432634740