We have all gone crazy---Edition 3.

darthtang aw

darthtang aw

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I have been a bit busy lately, but it is time for another installment.
Wikileaks creator to be named man of the year by time magazine. Next Obama will win the nobel peace prize................
Wikileaks. I admit I hadnt been following this to closely when it first came out. Sorry, thanks to wikipedia I disregard anything with wiki as the prefix for a web name. Especially since wikipedia had such entries of stupidity as "HogZilla" and a list of Celebrities that wear Spandex. Kind of removes the seriousness and validity of a website. However, this is a huge issue. The world impact this will and has had with our terrorist fighting partner countries around the world is huge. Roosevelt had six germans tried and executed for sabotage against our great country. Wikileaks idiot founder has done more damage to this country than those 6 germans did...How come our government isn't going after this guy with claws and fangs? Maybe they are waiting for him to be encountered by one of our esteamed TSA Agents, then he can see how national security is truly done in this country.
That leads me on to the next topic. TSA patdowns and those citizens who are protesting them. Do you really think stripping to your bra and panties is a protest? Men in this country (with the exception of Perez Hilton) regularly pat them selves down to victoria secret catalogs. Do you really think we are going to understand your protest? No, We are going to go behind a terminal and pat our selves down while watching you go through the line. Some of us will even film you and put you on You tube so we can share your "protest" with the other male pigs of the world.
Our wonderful government has extended the tax cuts. However the administration wanted to raise the taxes on the top 2 percent. Using the argument that we need to balance the budget. Ignore the fact that unemployment benefits shall be extended another 13 months for Citizens. I am sure that has no affect on the budget at all.
Walmart has joined Big Sis in the "See something Say something" program recently instituted. You know, because arab guys buying large amount of Nitrogen fertilizer was going unnoticed up until now. Seriously, I have looked at the people of Walmart website....I am frightened that these folks may be what the department of homeland security is going to rely upon to point out strange activity. Grandma in a tutu, with sock puppets down to her waist, tucked into her tights, is not exactly going to be the most observant individual I am guessing.
Recently, some 500 taliban POWS were released back into Afghanistan. Naturally our troops are not happy about this. Rumor has it they all had Hawaiian birth certificates............
Apparently 1000's of Viewers to dancing with the stars have written the FCC about Bristol Palin making some sort of Finale or something. These people are writting about the wrong thing. They need to write their former teachers for not instilling enough intelligence in them to determine what good television programing is. Or write the FCC for their lack of non reality TV show choices. May as well complain that the winner of the biggest loser was a fat person while they are at it.
And Last but not least...San Francisco is now delivery their medical marijuana. This maybe the worst drug on the planet. If you can't even get out of your house to go get your fix, there is a serious problem.
 
bionicarm

bionicarm

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Interesting topics. So I take it you have no problem extending the tax cuts. This new 'regime' of Republicans/Tea Partiers are making the statement "REDUCE THE DEFICIT!", yet these tax cuts alone with increase the deficit over $700 billion next year. You have no problems extending tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires that wouldn't even miss the extra 2% if they did increase that tax rate, but you want to deny individuals who have been looking for ANY type of job for over a year simple benefits that will keep basic foods on their table, and a roof over their head. Deny the unemployment benefits and all that would happen is these same individuals will go onto Welfare. So yea, the unemployment benefits probably won't put much a dent on the deficit if the two cancel one another out.
Ever thought these people who can't even get out of their house to get their 'fix' of medical marijuana may actually be terminal cancer patients, or debilitated to the point that it hurts just to walk to the door, much less a few hundred yards from their car to the medical office? Marijuana has been proven to relieve the pain from herniated discs, bad hips, arthritic joints, etc., and also relief the nausea experienced when taking Chemo.
 
mrdc

mrdc

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Kind of hitting all the topics huh? The reason the wiki founder is still running around is because Obama is too weak to do anything about it. I see where people say what the wiki founder is doing is a good thing by exposing the government relations. I say this is a horrible thing that could cause so many problems and put lives at risk.
I like the new proposed TSA slogans:
Can’t see London, can’t see France, unless we see your underpants.
Grope discounts available.
If we did our job any better we’d have to buy you dinner first.
Only we know if Lady Gaga is really a lady.
Don’t worry, my hands are still warm from the last guy.
Throw a few back at the airport Chili’s and you won’t even notice.
Wanna fly? Drop your fly.
We’ve handled more balls than Barney Frank
We are now free to move about your pants
We rub you the wrong way, so you can be on your way.
It’s not a grope. It’s a freedom pat.
When in doubt, we make you whip it out.
TSA: Touchin’, Squeezin’, Arrestin’
You were a virgin.
We handle more packages than the USPS
 
desertdawg

desertdawg

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TSA Brainless Imbeciles Tormenting Our Troops
I found this on another Board...............
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Sgt Mad Dog Tracy
12-6-10
As the Chalk Leader for my flight home from Afghanistan, I witnessed the following:
When we were on our way back from Afghanistan, we flew out of Baghram Air Field. We went through customs at BAF, full body scanners (no groping), had all of our bags searched, the whole nine yards. Our first stop was Shannon, Ireland to refuel. After that, we had to stop at Indianapolis, Indiana to drop off about 100 folks from the Indiana National Guard. That's where the stupid started.
First, everyone was forced to get off the plane-even though the plane wasn't refueling again. All 330 people got off that plane, rather than let the 100 people from the ING get off. We were filed from the plane to a holding area. No vending machines, no means of escape. Only a male/female latrine.
It's probably important to mention that we were ALL carrying weapons. Everyone was carrying an M4 Carbine (rifle) and some, like me, were also carrying an M9 pistol. Oh, and our gunners had M-240B machine guns. Of course, the weapons weren't loaded. And we had been cleared of all ammo well before we even got to customs at Baghram, then AGAIN at customs.
The TSA personnel at the airport seriously considered making us unload all of the baggage from the SECURE cargo hold to have it reinspected. Keep in mind, this cargo had been unpacked, inspected piece by piece by U.S. Customs officials, resealed and had bomb-sniffing dogs give it a one-hour run through. After two hours of sitting in this holding area, the TSA decided not to reinspect our Cargo-just to inspect us again: Soldiers on the way home from war, who had already been inspected, reinspected and kept in a SECURE holding area for 2 hours. Ok, whatever. So we lined up to go through security AGAIN.
This is probably another good time to remind you all that all of us were carrying actual assault rifles, and some of us were also carrying pistols.
So we're in line, going through one at a time. One of our Soldiers had his Gerber multi-tool. TSA confiscated it. Kind of ridiculous, but it gets better. A few minutes later, a guy empties his pockets and has a pair of nail clippers. Nail clippers. TSA informs the Soldier that they're going to confiscate his nail clippers. The conversation went something like this:
TSA Guy: You can't take those on the plane.
Soldier: What? I've had them since we left country.
TSA Guy: You're not suppose to have them.
Soldier: Why?
TSA Guy: They can be used as a weapon.
Soldier: [touches butt stock of the rifle] But this actually is a weapon. And I'm allowed to take it on.
TSA Guy: Yeah but you can't use it to take over the plane. You don't have bullets.
Soldier: And I can take over the plane with nail clippers?
TSA Guy: [awkward silence]
Me: Dude, just give him your damn nail clippers so we can get the f**k out of here. I'll buy you a new set.
Soldier: [hands nail clippers to TSA guy, makes it through security] To top it off, the tsa demanded we all be swabbed for "explosive residue" detection. Everyone failed, [go figure, we just came home from a war zone], because we tested positive for "Gun Powder Residue". Who the F**K is hiring these people?
This might be a good time to remind everyone that approximately 233 people re-boarded that plane with assault rifles, pistols, and machine guns-but nothing that could have been used as a weapon.
Can someone please tell me What the F**K happened to OUR country while we were gone?
Sgt. Mad Dog Tracy
 
fishtaco

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Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/382297/we-have-all-gone-crazy-edition-3#post_3335463
Interesting topics. So I take it you have no problem extending the tax cuts. This new 'regime' of Republicans/Tea Partiers are making the statement "REDUCE THE DEFICIT!", yet these tax cuts alone with increase the deficit over $700 billion next year. You have no problems extending tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires that wouldn't even miss the extra 2% if they did increase that tax rate, but you want to deny individuals who have been looking for ANY type of job for over a year simple benefits that will keep basic foods on their table, and a roof over their head. Deny the unemployment benefits and all that would happen is these same individuals will go onto Welfare. So yea, the unemployment benefits probably won't put much a dent on the deficit if the two cancel one another out.
Ever thought these people who can't even get out of their house to get their 'fix' of medical marijuana may actually be terminal cancer patients, or debilitated to the point that it hurts just to walk to the door, much less a few hundred yards from their car to the medical office? Marijuana has been proven to relieve the pain from herniated discs, bad hips, arthritic joints, etc., and also relief the nausea experienced when taking Chemo.
Darth has nooooo idea what he is talking about on the medical marijuana if he thinks it is the worse drug on the planet. May he have a medical MJ person on chemo living on one side of him and a house full of daylight vampire tweakers meth freaks on the other, should take him about one day to figure out his error. Of course probably everything not nailed down in his yard, shed, garage and vehicles will be stolen by then, but no one said eduction is free. LOL
 
spanko

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Quote:
Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/382297/we-have-all-gone-crazy-edition-3#post_3335463
Interesting topics. So I take it you have no problem extending the tax cuts. This new 'regime' of Republicans/Tea Partiers are making the statement "REDUCE THE DEFICIT!", yet these tax cuts alone with increase the deficit over $700 billion next year. You have no problems extending tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires that wouldn't even miss the extra 2% if they did increase that tax rate, but you want to deny individuals who have been looking for ANY type of job for over a year simple benefits that will keep basic foods on their table, and a roof over their head. Deny the unemployment benefits and all that would happen is these same individuals will go onto Welfare. So yea, the unemployment benefits probably won't put much a dent on the deficit if the two cancel one another out.
Ever thought these people who can't even get out of their house to get their 'fix' of medical marijuana may actually be terminal cancer patients, or debilitated to the point that it hurts just to walk to the door, much less a few hundred yards from their car to the medical office? Marijuana has been proven to relieve the pain from herniated discs, bad hips, arthritic joints, etc., and also relief the nausea experienced when taking Chemo.
Just a correction here, tax cuts do not increase the deficit, spending increases the deficit. Want to decrease it? Decrease spending.
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slice http:///forum/thread/382297/we-have-all-gone-crazy-edition-3#post_3335499
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Originally Posted by spanko http:///forum/thread/382297/we-have-all-gone-crazy-edition-3#post_3335496
Just a correction here, tax cuts do not increase the deficit, spending increases the deficit. Want to decrease it? Decrease spending.
Also of note is that tax rate reduction increases tax revenue. This fact/natural law is often ignored since it has no "social justice" component.
lol why are you bothering?
 
bionicarm

bionicarm

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Quote:
Originally Posted by spanko http:///forum/thread/382297/we-have-all-gone-crazy-edition-3#post_3335496
Quote:
Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/382297/we-have-all-gone-crazy-edition-3#post_3335463
Interesting topics. So I take it you have no problem extending the tax cuts. This new 'regime' of Republicans/Tea Partiers are making the statement "REDUCE THE DEFICIT!", yet these tax cuts alone with increase the deficit over $700 billion next year. You have no problems extending tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires that wouldn't even miss the extra 2% if they did increase that tax rate, but you want to deny individuals who have been looking for ANY type of job for over a year simple benefits that will keep basic foods on their table, and a roof over their head. Deny the unemployment benefits and all that would happen is these same individuals will go onto Welfare. So yea, the unemployment benefits probably won't put much a dent on the deficit if the two cancel one another out.
Ever thought these people who can't even get out of their house to get their 'fix' of medical marijuana may actually be terminal cancer patients, or debilitated to the point that it hurts just to walk to the door, much less a few hundred yards from their car to the medical office? Marijuana has been proven to relieve the pain from herniated discs, bad hips, arthritic joints, etc., and also relief the nausea experienced when taking Chemo.
Just a correction here, tax cuts do not increase the deficit, spending increases the deficit. Want to decrease it? Decrease spending.
Sure they do. The tax breaks reduce the money coming into the Feds to reduce the deficit. Not only that, how do you expect to PAY for these tax cuts?
 
gemmy

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Quote:
Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/382297/we-have-all-gone-crazy-edition-3#post_3335531
Quote:
Originally Posted by spanko http:///forum/thread/382297/we-have-all-gone-crazy-edition-3#post_3335496
Quote:
Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/382297/we-have-all-gone-crazy-edition-3#post_3335463
Interesting topics. So I take it you have no problem extending the tax cuts. This new 'regime' of Republicans/Tea Partiers are making the statement "REDUCE THE DEFICIT!", yet these tax cuts alone with increase the deficit over $700 billion next year. You have no problems extending tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires that wouldn't even miss the extra 2% if they did increase that tax rate, but you want to deny individuals who have been looking for ANY type of job for over a year simple benefits that will keep basic foods on their table, and a roof over their head. Deny the unemployment benefits and all that would happen is these same individuals will go onto Welfare. So yea, the unemployment benefits probably won't put much a dent on the deficit if the two cancel one another out.
Ever thought these people who can't even get out of their house to get their 'fix' of medical marijuana may actually be terminal cancer patients, or debilitated to the point that it hurts just to walk to the door, much less a few hundred yards from their car to the medical office? Marijuana has been proven to relieve the pain from herniated discs, bad hips, arthritic joints, etc., and also relief the nausea experienced when taking Chemo.
Just a correction here, tax cuts do not increase the deficit, spending increases the deficit. Want to decrease it? Decrease spending.
Sure they do. The tax breaks reduce the money coming into the Feds to reduce the deficit. Not only that, how do you expect to PAY for these tax cuts?
Can you explain how? The tax breaks are just an extension of what the previous administration had put in place. The money is not coming in today, and won't be coming in anytime soon.
 
reefraff

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There were no tax cuts. Simply an extension of the current rates. That is assuming the brain dead leftists in control of the house this through. If they block it I will officially call Obama one and done. It would make him look so weak he wouldn't make it though the next primary, let alone get re elected.
Tax cuts have indeed increased revenue to the IRS. Happened when Kennedy cut them, Happened when Reagan cut them and happened when Bush cut them. Problem is you can only do that about once in a generation and must also allow rates to increase at least a little before cutting them again. You don't want to raise taxes on ANYONE in a tight economy. Pure economists on both sides of the fence generally agree on that.
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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lol, pay for tax cuts? Someone explain to me how you pay for tax cuts? No seriously? How can you pay to keep your own money...
 
bionicarm

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Originally Posted by stdreb27 http:///forum/thread/382297/we-have-all-gone-crazy-edition-3#post_3335603
lol, pay for tax cuts? Someone explain to me how you pay for tax cuts? No seriously? How can you pay to keep your own money...
The FEDERAL GOVERNMENT has to spend more of OUR money when fewer taxes come in. Ergo, spending increases, including the deficit. So in the long run, WE as American tax payers will have to PAY for the tax breaks eventually. Pay me now, or pay me later. You choose. In the real world of economics, you'd reduce spending elsewhere to offset the loss of income you'd get from extra taxes. But we're talking Washington here. The Good Ole Boys aren't going to cut any of their pork-filled legislative bills as long as it keeps them in office for another 2 - 6 years. All these newbies that were just voted in who claim they will "Make A Change" had these "Welcome to Washington" luncheons and 'fundraising' events where they invited all these lobbyists and PAC members, who of course were required to give a 'donation' to get in. They claim they needed to 're-fill' their banks accounts aftrer spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to get elected. Riiiight. And you don't think these lobbyists and PAC's won't require something in return? Quid Pro Quo.
 
spanko

spanko

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Quote:
Originally Posted by bionicarm http:///forum/thread/382297/we-have-all-gone-crazy-edition-3#post_3335731
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Originally Posted by stdreb27 http:///forum/thread/382297/we-have-all-gone-crazy-edition-3#post_3335603
lol, pay for tax cuts? Someone explain to me how you pay for tax cuts? No seriously? How can you pay to keep your own money...
The FEDERAL GOVERNMENT has to spend more of OUR money when fewer taxes come in. Ergo, spending increases, including the deficit. So in the long run, WE as American tax payers will have to PAY for the tax breaks eventually. Pay me now, or pay me later. You choose. In the real world of economics, you'd reduce spending elsewhere to offset the loss of income you'd get from extra taxes. But we're talking Washington here. The Good Ole Boys aren't going to cut any of their pork-filled legislative bills as long as it keeps them in office for another 2 - 6 years. All these newbies that were just voted in who claim they will "Make A Change" had these "Welcome to Washington" luncheons and 'fundraising' events where they invited all these lobbyists and PAC members, who of course were required to give a 'donation' to get in. They claim they needed to 're-fill' their banks accounts aftrer spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to get elected. Riiiight. And you don't think these lobbyists and PAC's won't require something in return? Quid Pro Quo.
You are of the opinion that the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT has to spend OUR money. No they don't, if they were to concentrate on what they are empowered to do they could do it with 3$ of GDP. This money could in fact come from the tariffs on goods imported into the country and they could get by with very little tax to the people. Your assumption is that they have things they HAVE to spend on. My assumption is that they spend more than they are empowered to and should look to cut their spending.
 
slice

slice

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Originally Posted by spanko http:///forum/thread/382297/we-have-all-gone-crazy-edition-3#post_3335732
You are of the opinion that the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT has to spend OUR money. No they don't, if they were to concentrate on what they are empowered to do they could do it with 3$ of GDP. This money could in fact come from the tariffs on goods imported into the country and they could get by with very little tax to the people. Your assumption is that they have things they HAVE to spend on. My assumption is that they spend more than they are empowered to and should look to cut their spending.
I believe the root cause of the disagreement is the difference between believing in people -vs- NOT believing in people; a form of self-loathing.
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Originally Posted by stdreb27 http:///forum/thread/382297/we-have-all-gone-crazy-edition-3#post_3335501
Quote:
Originally Posted by Slice http:///forum/thread/382297/we-have-all-gone-crazy-edition-3#post_3335499
Quote:
Originally Posted by spanko http:///forum/thread/382297/we-have-all-gone-crazy-edition-3#post_3335496
Just a correction here, tax cuts do not increase the deficit, spending increases the deficit. Want to decrease it? Decrease spending.
Also of note is that tax rate reduction increases tax revenue. This fact/natural law is often ignored since it has no "social justice" component.
lol why are you bothering?
Why bother indeed. There was a study a few years ago on the psychosis of liberalism that found:
"Based on strikingly irrational beliefs and emotions, modern liberals relentlessly undermine the most important principles on
which our freedoms were founded," says Dr. Lyle Rossiter, author of the new book, "The Liberal Mind: The Psychological
Causes of Political Madness." "Like spoiled, angry children, they rebel against the normal responsibilities of adulthood and
demand that a parental government meet their needs from cradle to grave."
I have about a 1/2 page of synopsis if you'd like to have it...
 
spanko

spanko

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slice http:///forum/thread/382297/we-have-all-gone-crazy-edition-3#post_3335739
Quote:
Originally Posted by spanko http:///forum/thread/382297/we-have-all-gone-crazy-edition-3#post_3335732
You are of the opinion that the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT has to spend OUR money. No they don't, if they were to concentrate on what they are empowered to do they could do it with 3$ of GDP. This money could in fact come from the tariffs on goods imported into the country and they could get by with very little tax to the people. Your assumption is that they have things they HAVE to spend on. My assumption is that they spend more than they are empowered to and should look to cut their spending.
I believe the root cause of the disagreement is the difference between believing in people -vs- NOT believing in people; a form of self-loathing.
Quote:
Originally Posted by stdreb27 http:///forum/thread/382297/we-have-all-gone-crazy-edition-3#post_3335501
Quote:
Originally Posted by Slice http:///forum/thread/382297/we-have-all-gone-crazy-edition-3#post_3335499
Quote:
Originally Posted by spanko http:///forum/thread/382297/we-have-all-gone-crazy-edition-3#post_3335496
Just a correction here, tax cuts do not increase the deficit, spending increases the deficit. Want to decrease it? Decrease spending.
Also of note is that tax rate reduction increases tax revenue. This fact/natural law is often ignored since it has no "social justice" component.
lol why are you bothering?
Why bother indeed. There was a study a few years ago on the psychosis of liberalism that found:
"Based on strikingly irrational beliefs and emotions, modern liberals relentlessly undermine the most important principles on
which our freedoms were founded," says Dr. Lyle Rossiter, author of the new book, "The Liberal Mind: The Psychological
Causes of Political Madness." "Like spoiled, angry children, they rebel against the normal responsibilities of adulthood and
demand that a parental government meet their needs from cradle to grave."
I have about a 1/2 page of synopsis if you'd like to have it...
For the LIBERAL masses I would agree, for the LIBERAL politician IMO it is all about power and control.
Remember socialism is for the people, not the socialist.
 
slice

slice

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Originally Posted by spanko http:///forum/thread/382297/we-have-all-gone-crazy-edition-3#post_3335740
For the LIBERAL masses I would agree, for the LIBERAL politician IMO it is all about power and control.
Remember socialism is for the people, not the socialist.
You and I are on the same page.
I've often described politicians in these basic human terms: a politician has 3 basic needs:
1) Get power (get elected)
2) Keep power (get re-elected)
3) Increase power (get on that committee, then chair the committee and so on...)
A self-proclaimed hero of the downtrodden, to get power must make sure there ARE downtrodden, otherwise, who would vote for him?
To keep power, he must make sure there are ALWAYS the downtrodden, otherwise who would re-elect him?
To increase power, he must make sure there are MORE downtrodden, to increase his base.
A politician who claims to help the masses will never work himself out of a job.
A hero of the upwardly mobile must make sure there ARE upwardly mobile, that there will ALWAYS be upwardly mobile, and
to increase his power, make sure MORE are upwardly mobile...and that is the crowd I want to be in.
Yes, this sounds simplistic, but basic human nature should be worked WITH, not against (assuming one believes in people).
 
stdreb27

stdreb27

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lol, socialism isn't for the people. That is simply a lie to get the people to support that form of government... Not unlike liberalism...
 
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