What do I need to start a 35gl?

ilovetangs

Member
I now that I said I was going to bye a 65 but i don't have room for that size. Nobody completly answered my question anyways. I'm planning on buying a 35 and I need to know every item for filtration and all the other items which I'm going to have to buy. Please help!! I also want to get this fish so I need you to tell me if the size tank is enogh:
 

jester

Member
This is what worked very, very well for me in my 40.
Emporer 400 bio filtration. about 40 online/70 in stores
Seaclone 100 protien skimmer about 60 onlinr/90 in store
100 lbs southdown sand about 3.50 at home depot if you can find it
15-20lbs of L/R price vary's
heater
30 watt NO 10k light
20 watt no antic
I can't help with the fish, sorry.
 

ilovetangs

Member
My budget is probally going to be around $300 but my parents are going to buy all the equipment and my lr and ls but I'm going to have to buy my own fish. What is a good fish to buy as my first for a reef tank. I also need you to give me list of the items that I need to buy in order to keep my tank like new. Please tell me the brands of some of the best brands that are out there but in my budget's range. Tell me if this fish is right for a reef tank. It's a longnose hawkfish.
 

krux

Member
keep in mind, one of the largest hidden costs for a tank is the stand and canopy, you can easily spend 300 dollars just on that!
For less that expensive gear that works on a system abou that size look at my sig. The only thing i would do is figure out ahead of time what kind of invertibrates you want to have, because lights can be really expensive, and you don't want to have to buy them twice. If you are going to keep primarily fish, and will be staying away from things like clams, corals, and anenomes (which is near impossible on a 300 dollar budget) you can invest in about 110 watts of power compacts for around 100 dollars online, get a 80 dollar protien skimmer, and spend 20 bucks on a pwerhead. Live rock will average about 6 dollars a pound in most places for basic, non coral encrusted stuff, so keep that in mind. try to have no less than 1 pound per gallon, especially if you are going to go filterless.
To save money, if all you will have is fish for the time being, you can get a single bulb, normal output flourescent and a bulb for it for about 40 dollars, which will save money over the power compacts. Also, if you are going to keep yourself to just a couple fish to start, instead of a skimmer, you could go with a hang on tank power filter, a magnum, or an aquaclear. this route will cut donw a lot on the need for as much live rock.
Bare bones, cheapest i would go, 150 watt visi-therm or ebo jagger heater, a sturdy stand, a glass top, a strip light (preferably 2 bulbs if you can fit it in the budget), a 300 or 500 series aquaclear filter, a good test kit (about 30 bucks for a basic one), a small powerhead for water movement (rio 90 at 15 dollars would work), and about 15 pounds of live rock.
Upgrades would be about 30 pounds more live rock, a canopy with PC lights, a skimmer to replace the filter (after live rock purchase), a larger powerhead, or a second of similar size. This configuration would put you in the 500 to 600 dollar range, and most of these could be done in steps (remember, you need lots of live rock to replace a power filter, and then a skimmer is necessary, so they go hand in hand).
If I was you, I would probably recomend saving another hundred dollars or so before setting up your tank, because that will give you a lot better shot at keeping things alive, especially if you hope to keep more than just that hawkfish.
On a side note, check your newspaper classifides, there are frequently salt water tank setups in the paper at drastic discounts, just make sure to see that everything is in working order, find out how old the bulbs are, if the tank leaks, etc..... generally ask why its being sold. if the person is getting out of the hobby, or their tank crashed and made them mad, its probably a safe bet that the stuff is ok, if its because everything is old, i wouldnt buy the stuff. just a thought. if you want more information on buying used equipment, ask that in another thread :)
Good starting fish would be a couple of green or blue chromis, maybe a blue damsel, a ocellaris clown, or a firefish, how many you can have will be dependant on you filtration. Also you will want one hermit and one snail per 2 or 3 gallons of water, so 15 or so of each to keep algae under control.
 

ilovetangs

Member
Well now that i see your point i think that i'll ask you another question. I want to have a filtration system and i'm only going to start out with one fish. I also want to buy an anemone and maybe a coral or two. now is there a formula for telling how many lbs. of lr and ls i need to put in my tank and what is a good clown fish and anemone to start out with.
Any more help woulb be greatly apreciated.
thanx
 

jinky3dper

Member
Live Rock = 1 to 1.5lbs per gallon
Live Sand = "length of tank" x "desired depth of sand bed" x ".02" = lbs of sand needed.
others...am i right on the .02?
 

hnf2k

Active Member
i have that fish. he's cool. likes to sit on things. i believe they pick on shrimp and things when they get bigger.
 

ilovetangs

Member
thanx for the advice on the longnose hawck fish i plan top use the formula for lr and ls but i still need to know what is easiest and least expensive type of clown fish and anemeone to have please tell i need to know
 
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