what size koralia pump?

deejeff442

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i have a 150 gallon 6 foot long and want to add two koralia pumps one on each end.
how big should i go i dont want to blow the fish and coral out of the water.
i was thinking koralia 2 pumps
 

deejeff442

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thanks i will get the 4's .1200 gph seemed like alot but i trust you.
i plan to order the achillis tang soon and wanted to add the pumps for him.
tough to wait out the holidays but i dont want to risk a day late shipping.
thanks
 

deejeff442

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i have a 1500 gpr main pump and two rio 550 's in there now.
i will be adding a few more fish soon 2 are tangs,think after i put in the k4's i can take out the rio's or just leave them also?
 

stanlalee

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magnum 5 1650gph x 2. If 1400gph is working beautifully in my 30g I cant see any less in a 150g if you are only going to use 2 powerheads. koralia 2's wont do ANYTHING for a 150g. if your comparing the gph to a conventional pump or powerhead cut the propeller number in half (a 1200gph propeller pump feels like a 600gph conventional powerhead as far as blowing things around). two koralia 2's would amount to putting two maxijet 1200's at the corners of your 150g. because its dispersed it doesn't blow stuff around. I have a K1 in my 6g and its low flow in that.
 

deejeff442

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i am not familliar with the koralia pumps .
i have two return lines from the sump 1500 gph and two rio 550
then i should just add the two k4's?
would that set up be good for the fish and corals i will add?
or buy different pumps?
i am open to suggestions
 

natclanwy

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I think that setup would be fine and I would go with at least 2- K4's in a 150g tank. I have one k4 and one k3 on each end of my 55g plus my return pump and canister filter return for a total of about 2600gph.
 

deejeff442

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apparently the koralia's disperse water more than they make direct flow.
i was looking them up and i figure i would lose my rios and get 2 k4's from each end.
and maybe a k3 to put on the back facing down at the lr.
plus the sump pump
is that eneough or too much?
 

deejeff442

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well i figure i would lose the rios cause they are ugly hanging halfway down the tank so i would be adding to the sump pump 1500 gph.
but the return tubes are 3/4 inch so the really dont make alot of movement.
the koralias would do most of the work .
i will put the rios in my tank that i mix new saltwater in seeing that pump just burnt out the other day.
that was a rio 1100 which was 15 yrs old .i dont think they even make that model anymore .got my moneys worth out of that one.
 

spiderwoman

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I would go at least with 4 No 4 Koralia's or 4 modded MJ1200's. Another option is go with larger Koralia's, the new kind that can be used with a controller.
I'm running 2 6100 Tunze's (~3000gph each) in our 150 and I'm planning on adding more. I got a great deal on brand new Tunze 6101's and may replace the old ones with those.
 

stanlalee

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come on get two koralia magmums, I want to hear some first hand feedback and you can definately get rid of your rio's and run just two powerheads with those.
 

deejeff442

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i like a persistant man stan.
if i put two magnums on each side in the front of the rock will it circulate around the back and through the rock also i have 200 lbs of lr.
i would figure 3 or 4 k3's or k4's would get more area than two big pumps
actually like the magnums since they draw less watts than the k4's
but with that much flow coming off one pump i cant put a coral anywhere near it.
 

stanlalee

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between the wide dispersion and bouncing off stuff (glass,rock or each other) you get random flow pretty much everywhere. they pull a good amount of water back towards their direction too just sucking water in back behind the propeller to be pumped foward. I only have one propeller pump and dont have any dead spots. if you put them on the far corners you'll have to play around with bouncing off the front glass or straight ahead into each other ect until you find what works best.
this is two 1600gph maxijets with sureflow kits in a 120 uk gallon (100 us gallons) to give you an idea of what 1600gph x 2 would be like (exept less so in your larger tank)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7xZrWW-6CY
and here are two K2's like you originally had in mind (on a 46g)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYOCWTaH69Q
I think two K4's and two K3's would work nicely as well but I thought you prefered to get rid of powerheads (or is it just the ugly rio's).
 

deejeff442

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the leather in the 46 gallon looks like its ready to get blown across the tank.
even in the first video the corals look like they are getting blown all over .is that what is supposed to happen?
i would think the fish would have a hard time getting around the tank in flow like that
i already have the sand blowing up off the bottom from my clown dusting it with his tail if i add alot more flow wont the tank look cloudy?
 

natclanwy

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Think about the volume and current strength you find in the ocean from the tide going in and out, it probably exceeds 90% of the flow rates most of us are keeping in their reef tanks. Saltwater fish are used to swimming in a current all day especially reef fish so you don't have to worry about them unless you are keeping pipe fish or seahorses and even they can handle more flow than most people think.
As far as your sand goes your tank may cloud up when you first introduce the new powerheads but it should clear within a couple of days. You will have to experiment with the powerhead locations so that you can get good flow across your sandbed and through your rock without excavating holes in your substrate. It will be normal to see some sand move when you introduce the new powerheads so unless the powerhead is really blowing hard on the sand let it go for 24hrs before you readjust it and see if the sand stablizes only move them before that if you find that they are digging large holes in the substrate. I have 2600gph in my 55g reef tank, my sand is extremely fine much smaller than grains of suger and my sand doesn't move. Its a fine line though because if I get a large mexican turbo that decideds to park in the sand for too long I get a sand dune.
 

deejeff442

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good point. never using a koralia they push water up,down,forward as appossed to a rio that just pushes forward?
also is a wave make worth anything?
do they just turn pumps on and off?
maybe i could get 4 k4's and hook one up or just ok to put 3 or 4 pumps in there?
does koralia sell an asolating head pump?
i just dont like looking at something like that leather getting blown 45 degrees over constantly.
back when i kept corals they didnt seem to do very well i know why now.i never had alot of flow in my tanks.
 
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