What three policies would you like to see in a viable 3rd party?

[uneverno]

I'll start:
1) Abolish the Federal Reserve CORPORATION.
2) 15 year expiration date on all federal legislation (Constitution and Bill of Rights excepted.)
3) Mandatory draft of all 18 or older children of politicians in time of war. (To the infantry, not to the Coast Guard or Officer Corps...)
Carry on.

 

[reefraff]

1. No decrease in taxes or increase in federal spending until we are running a yearly budget surplus and can start paying down the debt.
2. Signed pledge by any candidate for congress not to serve more than two consecutive terms as a senator or 4 as a member of the House of Representatives.
EDIT: I could only come up with 2 that would be enough to hook me..

 

[reefforbrains]

1- Welfare reform.
2- Import export laws to include assembly, materials, and labor. Not forcing to buy MADE IN USA, but forcing the closure of such loopholes that create invisible tax evasion that is going on through outsourcing and the import/export trade.
The FED is bloated and messed up but I think it is much more difficult of a situation than to just say to get rid of them. Reform and clean it up definatley. But to force them into a dissolve is unrealistic and would make more of a mess than it would help. At least for the first 10 years.
3- I instead we start small and get rid of the DMV, DOT, and any company that has orange trucks and teams of 50 guys staring into holes on the sides of the roads at prevailing union wages. Keep the open market for the private sector for construction but level the field for these monsters that gobble hundreds of millions at a time taking sometimes years to pave single stretches of rural highways.

 

[zman1]

1. Balanced trade or better yet trade surplus
2. Flat tax no loopholes
3. Smarter and enforced regulations in banking and market
I am going to give a forth... Just DO IT

 

[aquaknight]

1.) Pretty broad, but heavy modification/entire redo of the transportation system. Everything from forcing States to have better licensing programs, to better road construction, to better foreign trade (when American cars are taxed through the nose in Japan and Japanese cars have little to no tariffs/taxes placed on them here, makes ya wonder). I'm not a fan of a national license program, but we really need to get people who can't drive off the road, and stop dumbing driving down for the rest of us.
2.) Better transparency. I don't want to see their books, but it would be nice to actually see when say, there's a local 1¢ sales tax increase, or however much revenue was made from all the SunPasses, where and what that money was spent on.
3.) No reduction is taxes, err..., no reduction in federal income tax, at least, as mentioned above till balances are better met.

 

[ironeagle2006]

Mine is going to be from the Logistic side of things. In the late 90's when Bill was in Office his Head of the EPA which later went on to Head CARB in California decided that a Diesel truck Engine that was getting 9 MPG going down the road was prducing way to much pollution yet they met the EPA regs at the time. So the EPA forced the new engines UP the trucking Industry rear and now if a truck gets 5 MPG they celebrate. Tell me this how is a truck that uses 1.8 TIMES the fuel going down the road at 60 MPH using LESS FUEL OVERALL.
For me the 3 would be this.
1 Require the EPA to do a COST BENEFIT ANAYSIS before anymore Regulations on the Economy.
2 Require that the Fuel tax only be used to FIX the ROADS NOT TO FUND ANY PET PROJECTS THAT IS WHAT IT IS PAID FOR NOT ANYTHING ELSE.
3. Require Drug and Alchohal tests for all parties involved in any accident involving a DOT Reportable accident involving anykind of Motor Vechile. If you are found with a BAC of .08 or higher you get a DUI charge any drugs you get the DUI of Drugs charge. BTW that is the same way a CDL holder get treated and they deliver everything you use at one time or another in your house.
At one point everything in your house was on a truck at some point in its life. Yet they are treated like the scum of the earth and the States treat them like a ATM. Here is a little something to think about if the drivers that deliver Fresh Food to NYC Stopped for a WEEK EVERY STORE IN NYC WOULD BE OUT OF FOOD OF EVERY KIND. Washington DC would last less than 1 week before they ran out of food also. Most Grocery Stores have less than a 3 day supply on the shelves. Think about that.

 

[darthtang aw]

So far everything I agree with.
a few more I would like to add. All people must serve 2 years in one form of miltary/public service or another.18-22 would be the age limit....at some point during that time period you must join. Be it coast guard, Army, Marine, merchant Marine, Peace corp, navy, or air force. (Instill a sense of pride for duty, work ethic and country as a whole)
2. Line Item Bills....no more bundling....if it is a heathcre bill everything in the bill has to be heathcare related...no additional "pork add ons or special projects".
3. Presidential Line Item Veto.
4. The removal of the party affiliation off the ballot and campaign signs.
Notice, no one has brought up anything about social issues. So I name this party the Economican Party.

 

[tank a holic]

agree with darth
no earmarks on legislation, if you want a bridge to nowhere (or whatever) put it on its own bill
"3) Mandatory draft of all 18 or older children of politicians in time of war. (To the infantry, not to the Coast Guard or Officer Corps..)"
I disagree here, although I think it would be good for all 18 year olds to spend time in the military I dont think you can force "just politicians children"
much less force them to go infantry as apposed to one of the other hundred jobs the military offers

 

[roadie996]

1. honesty is the best policy
2. trust
3. Loyalty

 

[roadie996]

Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/3110195
a few more I would like to add. All people must serve 2 years in one form of miltary/public service or another.18-22 would be the age limit....at some point during that time period you must join. Be it coast guard, Army, Marine, merchant Marine, Peace corp, navy, or air force. (Instill a sense of pride for duty, work ethic and country as a whole)
forcing american youth, or any american for that matter, to do something they may or may not believe in or want to do takes away your very right of freedom. You no longer have constitutional rights at that point. Its ridiculous. I can guarantee that any of you at the age of 18, freshly graduated high school, would be some of the last people to think, "now I HAVE to join the military?" is completely fair.

 

[kjr_trig]

1. Flat Tax....yeah right.
2. Dedication to being responsible for spending our tax dollars in Washington (no earmarks).
3. Stay away from social issues, leave it to the states.
In general, reward those of us whom are fiscally responsible, and encourage Americans to be more so.

 

[reefraff]

Originally Posted by roadie996
http:///forum/post/3110215
forcing american youth, or any american for that matter, to do something they may or may not believe in or want to do takes away your very right of freedom. You no longer have constitutional rights at that point. Its ridiculous. I can guarantee that any of you at the age of 18, freshly graduated high school, would be some of the last people to think, "now I HAVE to join the military?" is completely fair.
I guess you missed the peace corp. in his list.
I think every 18 year old in the country should have to go through boot camp. After that it is up to them whether they want to join the military but I think it would make people better appreciate what those in the military do for us.

 

[geridoc]

Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3110225
I guess you missed the peace corp. in his list.
I think every 18 year old in the country should have to go through boot camp. After that it is up to them whether they want to join the military but I think it would make people better appreciate what those in the military do for us.
Take a look at Robert Heinlein's "Starship Trooper" for a very interesting take on this idea. Heinlein imagines a future society in which everyone is free to enlist in the armed services, or not. However, only those who enlist and complete their service satisfactorily are granted citizenship. There's more, so read the book.

 

[roadie996]

Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3110225
I guess you missed the peace corp. in his list.
I think every 18 year old in the country should have to go through boot camp. After that it is up to them whether they want to join the military but I think it would make people better appreciate what those in the military do for us.
Peace Corp or not, forcibly making someone do something is taking away their constitutional rights. Now, if you put a stipulation on it, like "a 2.3GPA or less when graduating high school requires a 2 year minimum service in the military. If you drop out of school, then you must enlist for a minimum of 4 years, blah blah blah" That's something that could actually HELP youth to want to achieve higher grades and stay in school, and then if they choose to enlist, they can. Otherwise, they are free to do what they want. Besides, you can't tell a 4.0GPA student who wants to go to law school, or become a doctor he has to join the military before he starts his 7+ years of College/Grad/Doctorates school.

 

[darthtang aw]

Originally Posted by roadie996
http:///forum/post/3110231
Peace Corp or not, forcibly making someone do something is taking away their constitutional rights. Now, if you put a stipulation on it, like "a 2.3GPA or less when graduating high school requires a 2 year minimum service in the military. If you drop out of school, then you must enlist for a minimum of 4 years, blah blah blah" That's something that could actually HELP youth to want to achieve higher grades and stay in school, and then if they choose to enlist, they can. Otherwise, they are free to do what they want. Besides, you can't tell a 4.0GPA student who wants to go to law school, or become a doctor he has to join the military before he starts his 7+ years of College/Grad/Doctorates school.
Sort of like telling everyone they have to have health insurance either their own or through a government program.
Your service doesn't have to be a MILITARY branch. it would also be set up that you earn money for college during that time.

 

[reefraff]

Originally Posted by roadie996
http:///forum/post/3110231
Peace Corp or not, forcibly making someone do something is taking away their constitutional rights. Now, if you put a stipulation on it, like "a 2.3GPA or less when graduating high school requires a 2 year minimum service in the military. If you drop out of school, then you must enlist for a minimum of 4 years, blah blah blah" That's something that could actually HELP youth to want to achieve higher grades and stay in school, and then if they choose to enlist, they can. Otherwise, they are free to do what they want. Besides, you can't tell a 4.0GPA student who wants to go to law school, or become a doctor he has to join the military before he starts his 7+ years of College/Grad/Doctorates school.
You think people that do better in school don't have just as much obligation to serve their country as those who don't? Doesn't that discriminate against poor people that can't afford tutors or don't have time to help their kids with their school work because they are working 2 jobs?
I am not in favor of a draft because like Rumsfeld correctly pointed out before being demonized by the Democrats it really doesn't add to the military. I do think making a kid give up 6 weeks of their summer to get an idea what the military is would be a good thing. Maybe some who wouldnt otherwise consider joining the service might decide it isn't so bad after all. I think give kids the option of doing it after their junior or senior years. Also of course you would need to mellow out the "Boot Camp" and make it a recruiting tool for the military as well.

 

[roadie996]

Originally Posted by Darthtang AW
http:///forum/post/3110236
Sort of like telling everyone they have to have health insurance either their own or through a government program.
I'd rather have it and not need it then need it and not have it

 

[roadie996]

Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3110238
You think people that do better in school don't have just as much obligation to serve their country as those who don't? Doesn't that discriminate against poor people that can't afford tutors or don't have time to help their kids with their school work because they are working 2 jobs?
I am not in favor of a draft because like Rumsfeld correctly pointed out before being demonized by the Democrats it really doesn't add to the military. I do think making a kid give up 6 weeks of their summer to get an idea what the military is would be a good thing. Maybe some who wouldnt otherwise consider joining the service might decide it isn't so bad after all. I think give kids the option of doing it after their junior or senior years. Also of course you would need to mellow out the "Boot Camp" and make it a recruiting tool for the military as well.
6 to one, half dozen to the other

 

[reefraff]

Originally Posted by GeriDoc
http:///forum/post/3110226
Take a look at Robert Heinlein's "Starship Trooper" for a very interesting take on this idea. Heinlein imagines a future society in which everyone is free to enlist in the armed services, or not. However, only those who enlist and complete their service satisfactorily are granted citizenship. There's more, so read the book.
I saw the movie. It is an interesting idea. Maybe the thing to do is grant anyone who does a satisfactory 2 year stint in the army lifetime health care instead of bonuses and college money.

 

[darthtang aw]

Originally Posted by roadie996
http:///forum/post/3110239
I'd rather have it and not need it then need it and not have it

I know several 18-22 year olds that would rather have their portion of the money that is set aside to either or.......We are not discussing what you want. You said it is unconstitutional to force someone to do something they may not believe in or agree with.