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nick17

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Hi I was wondering which of these fish can be kept together in a 29gal tank. 45#'s aquacultured rock, 130 watt pc 10k and super actinic, prizm skimmer and 10gal fuge.
1. Flame Hawk
2. Yellow Watchman goby?
3. Lawnmower Blenny?
4. 3 Green Chromis?
Would this be too much for a 29gal tank? Wish to get this all from here.. tank is about 3-4 months old..
Small cleanup crew too.. 15 hermits and 15 snails. Cleaner or fire shirmp be too much?
Any and all suggestions welcome!
Thanks,
-Nick
 
cnlight

cnlight

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Yes that is too many fish for your aquarium. The rule for size is, an inch of fish per five gallons.
You could have some of those fish, I would choose between the blennie and the goby and have only one chromis and that be an ok tank setup. Also hawkfish will eat shrimp, just an fyi for you. First start with the chromis, after a couple of weeks and another. The only thing though about lawnmower blennies, is they need algae, that is their main food source. So, your tank needs a good algae supply to support it, and your cleanup crew will have eaten most of your algae for you. The goby would work well for you too. You will want to add the hawkfish last, since they are kind of territorial. I hope this helps and always do lots of research of all the fish you are interested in. Lets run down the fish again.
chromis 2" 10 gallons
flame hawk 4" 20 gallons
lawn blennie 3" 15 gallons
watch goby 3" 15 gallons
your total inches of fish per five galllons is: 60 gallons, now this number of gallons is until the fish are well established. Say after eight months, the tank could handle a little more and you could add maybe a fish, that you couldn't add before. After that time it down to an inch of fish per two gallons. I hope this helped you.
 
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nick17

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cnlight,
I JUST rememberd that after I posted.. so now I get to feel stupid again.. :(
So what you are saying is to add maybe add all the fish in about a year? I really would like to get a small school of chromis or longspine cardinals.. but I guess that isn't to posible..
So I will start out with the goby and chromis/longspine to "setup" my tank.
What if I narrowed down my clean-up crew to 6 hermits and 4 snails, would there still be enough algea for the lawnmower blennie?
Thanks again cnlight!
-Nick
 
cnlight

cnlight

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I really wouldn't add the goby and the blennie together. I heard it can be done, but since they are both bottom dwellers, they may not like eachother. I would personally choose the lawnmower blennie over the goby. The others would work too, but just have the cardinal or the clown as a first fish. Just remember that the hawkfish can't go with any shrimp and some will even go after the crabs.
Other than those details, you should be able to have those fish together. Sounds like a fun tank, I really like the wrasse, might have to get one of those for myself. Take everything slow and everything should be ok. I'm glad your doing your research before the purchase of any new fish.
 
cnlight

cnlight

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I just looked over what I said, and I still think that many fish is pushing your limits. If you had the cardinal, the wrasse and the hawkfish, that would work really well for your tank. I really wouldn't want to put to many others in there, the more space they can have the better it is for the fish.
I was just reading a thread in the new hobbist forum, one person has way over stocked their tank and many of their fish are dying. Its better to have too little than too many. I hope this helps you. Maybe instead of the blennie or the watchmen goby, you could do a clown goby, they only get about two inches and are very cute. Just a thought I had.
 
aarone

aarone

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I have a 28 gallon with a percula, 6 line wrass, watchman wheeler goby. dont get the chromis and you should be ok. I know the whole stocking rule thing, but i think that is crap. Someone WILL disagree with me on this but IME it only works with the bigger fish that tend to grow fast. All of my fish are at their maximum growth and no problems have occured. Make sure and use a good protein skimmer.
aaron
 
harlequin

harlequin

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The inch per gallon rule is a good rule to follow in the beginning but isnt a catch all rule. After all most of us with morays couldnt have anything else in our tanks. I think its more important to just use common sense. The problem with the blenny is not an algae related problem. I have never seen one that doesnt eat flake or whatever else gets put into the water. I think those taht dont are in a great minority. Problem comes with aggression and the fact that LMBs get to be decently sized, mine is almost 6 inches long(the blenny). Also blennies, especially LMBs are a moderately aggressive fish, especially to fish with similar body styles like the goby. Mine at first would even pick on a bigger foxface, but it quit acting up after awhile. You might want to look at a smaller blenny for your tank. I personally love bi-color blennies, cute fun and in my experience non-aggressive. With your lighting it sounds like you want to do a reef at some point. The less fish the better off you will be. Go with the school of chromis and either a blenny or a goby(preferable). Skip the hawk, they are sometimes an aggressive fish and grow decently big too. I would not worry about dropping your cleanup crew list since they add little to no bio-load to the tank.
 
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nick17

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Thanks guys.. I know my post got deleted since I had another website in it, so I will TRY and post pics of the fish I wanted.
I don't have a digi camera so I've never posted before, but will try.
1. Carpenters Flasher Wrasse (< 3" length)
2. Yashai White Ray Shrimp Goby
3. Yellow Watchman Goby (what could replace it?)
4. Bangaii Cardinal or True Perc clown
Here's pick of Carpenters Wrasse (same as Hawaiin Flame Wrasse on here?)
Thanks so much guys!
-Nick
 
aarone

aarone

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for your goby issue.
I noticed you wanted a shrimp. The flamhawk will probably eat a small shrimp if you buy one. What i would do is get a pistol shrimp (cavedwelling) and a goby that will pair up with it. Any goby in the family amblyleotris and stonogobiops will pair USUALLY depending on the pistol you get. That way you can have the goby and a shrimp! go to the website you found that picture on and look at your goby choices. I would pick the yashia white ray shrimp goby if you can shell out the money for one fish.
aaron
 
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nick17

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aaron,
Thanks for the repsone! I certainly can dish out the money for a good fish. Nothing over $100 though.. unless it was a bigger tank.
I will go look at them too.. thanks!
-Nick
 
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nick17

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What kind of pistol shirmp?
1. Bullseye Pistol
"Unlike some other Pistol Shrimp the Bullseye Pistol Shrimp does not normally form a symbiotic relationship with gobies (e.g. Amblyeleotris or Stonogobiops), but rather is a free-living reef species." True?
2. Tiger Pistol
3. Pistol shrimp
-Nick
 
aarone

aarone

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yeah do not get the bullseye. The tiger bonds better. I forgot to mention that. Probably should have...would have saved time and money ;)
aaron
 
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nick17

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Thanks aarone.. I'm pretty much done.. expect can you add two gobys in one tank?
I want the yellow watchman and Yashi White Ray Shrimp goby.
Do they both need pistol shirmps if I am going to add a shrimp? Don't want one to be lonely since I'm spending $70 on one goby..
-Nick
 
aarone

aarone

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the goby will not be lonely. I would just add the yashia. The pistol will provide a nice place for it to live while using the goby for its eyes. They will stay in the cave most of the time. Do not get the yellow watchman...I have heard they are very boring.
aaron
 
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nick17

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Thanks aarone!
Will see what everyone else says before making the final purchase.
-Nick
 
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nick17

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Now the Yellow Watchman is out, do you think I could add a mated pair of True percs?
-Nick
 
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nick17

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OK thanks aarone!
Fish list:
1. Carpenters Flasher Wrasse
2. Yashi goby
3. True perc pairs
4. Tiger Pistol
Thanks guys
-Nick
 
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