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shrimpy brains
Guest
Could you tell me:
What type?
How many?
Tank size?
Feeding schedule?
Tankmates issues?
Anything else you find important?
Pics would be great(as always)
Thanks!!
Could you tell me:
What type?
How many?
Tank size?
Feeding schedule?
Tankmates issues?
Anything else you find important?
Pics would be great(as always)
Thanks!!
cranberry
Active Member
What type?: Female Lyretail (could not keep a male >6 months)How many?: 1... lived 8 years.Tank size? 55gFeeding schedule?: 1 x dayTankmates issues?: None
Anything else you find important?: Very hardy fish.
Pics would be great:
What type?: Blotched anthias
How many?: Trio
Tank size?: 28g... moving to a 60g in a couple of weeks.
Feeding schedule?: 1 x day
Tankmates issues?: None
Anything else you find important?: A little bit on the mean side
Pics would be great:
What type?: Red saddle Anthias
How many?: 3
Tank size?: 50g
Feeding schedule?: 1 x day
Tankmates issues?: None... presently in with seahorses
Anything else you find important?: Very timid fish.
Pics would be great:
What type?: Sunburst Anthias
How many?: 1
Tank size?: 50g
Feeding schedule?: 1 x day
Tankmates issues?: Would need to be a peaceful tank.
Anything else you find important?: Am thinking of adding 2 smaller ones to see if it reduces how timid it is.
Pics would be great:
Anything else you find important?: Very hardy fish.
Pics would be great:
What type?: Blotched anthias
How many?: Trio
Tank size?: 28g... moving to a 60g in a couple of weeks.
Feeding schedule?: 1 x day
Tankmates issues?: None
Anything else you find important?: A little bit on the mean side
Pics would be great:
What type?: Red saddle Anthias
How many?: 3
Tank size?: 50g
Feeding schedule?: 1 x day
Tankmates issues?: None... presently in with seahorses
Anything else you find important?: Very timid fish.
Pics would be great:
What type?: Sunburst Anthias
How many?: 1
Tank size?: 50g
Feeding schedule?: 1 x day
Tankmates issues?: Would need to be a peaceful tank.
Anything else you find important?: Am thinking of adding 2 smaller ones to see if it reduces how timid it is.
Pics would be great:
btldreef
Moderator
What type? 3 Lyretail FemalesHow many? 3
Tank size? 155G
Feeding schedule? Once in the am, once at night
Tankmates issues? None, and I have a mean Coral Beauty who beats on everyone, left them alone. The Anthias are super peaceful fish
Anything else you find important? I tried keeping Dispars, Ignitus and Purple Queens, all failed. The fish would hide in the rocks for days and then die. The Lyretails have been out and eating from day one and are by far the hardiest I've dealt with. One suggestion, make sure you see them eat before you buy them. I love my Lyretails. They're peaceful and always swim together.
Pics would be great(as always)
Thanks!!
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Tank size? 155G
Feeding schedule? Once in the am, once at night
Tankmates issues? None, and I have a mean Coral Beauty who beats on everyone, left them alone. The Anthias are super peaceful fish
Anything else you find important? I tried keeping Dispars, Ignitus and Purple Queens, all failed. The fish would hide in the rocks for days and then die. The Lyretails have been out and eating from day one and are by far the hardiest I've dealt with. One suggestion, make sure you see them eat before you buy them. I love my Lyretails. They're peaceful and always swim together.
Pics would be great(as always)
Thanks!!
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shrimpy brains
Guest
Hmmm......the red saddles are very pretty, but wonder if my six line would pick on them(timid)
On the Lyretails.....BTLD, how long have you had them?? I thought anthias would change gender in the abscence of a male. Wondering if this may happen, and if getting it female and later changing would be more hardy than getting males????
Thank you both for very nice responses.
On the Lyretails.....BTLD, how long have you had them?? I thought anthias would change gender in the abscence of a male. Wondering if this may happen, and if getting it female and later changing would be more hardy than getting males????
Thank you both for very nice responses.
cranberry
Active Member
The red saddles would not tolerate the wrasse.
She did something a little funky at about year 4-5 and grew an elongated dorsal first spine. I don't believe this made her a male. She had that feature, but still look liked a female. Where are you reading females are converting to males in the absence of other females in captivity? I would love to read something about that.
Lemme dig up some OLD pics.
She did something a little funky at about year 4-5 and grew an elongated dorsal first spine. I don't believe this made her a male. She had that feature, but still look liked a female. Where are you reading females are converting to males in the absence of other females in captivity? I would love to read something about that.
Lemme dig up some OLD pics.
aquaknight
Active Member
What type? LyretailHow many? 1-female 1-male
Tank size? 90gal
Feeding schedule? 3x-4x. Sometimes just a pitch of pellets
Tankmates issues? A few. The female is aggressive to new comers. The only way the two chalk basses in the tank survived is a testimate to their durability. 99% sure she causes a 2" Harlequin Tusk to jump.
Anything else you find important? The female was part of an order from SWF, one male, 2 females. Unfortunately one of the females died shortly after arriving, and the male died about 2 weeks later. The alone female survived and has grown up a lot. We tried searching all over locally for a large male to add with her for the longest time. She put on some size very quickly, and and perhaps turn a tiny bit male . We finally found one we thought looked big at the LFS, but he was still smaller then her. The male coloration seemed to be turning female day-by-day, but has stopped. There is no question the female bosses the new male around. To be honest, I think the male has reverted back to female a touch. He's mostly a ruby red now. Not at all the white/pink you'd expect from a male Lyretail.
Other Anthias I've tried and have died are, Dispars, Lori's, and Purple Chromis (Luzonichthys sp.). The female Lyretail is directly responsible for the purple chromis's deaths. All they could do was hide behind a powerhead. Dispar's and Lori's were dumb purchases, both had internal parasites I thought I could remedy. You can't if they don't eat....
Tank size? 90gal
Feeding schedule? 3x-4x. Sometimes just a pitch of pellets
Tankmates issues? A few. The female is aggressive to new comers. The only way the two chalk basses in the tank survived is a testimate to their durability. 99% sure she causes a 2" Harlequin Tusk to jump.
Anything else you find important? The female was part of an order from SWF, one male, 2 females. Unfortunately one of the females died shortly after arriving, and the male died about 2 weeks later. The alone female survived and has grown up a lot. We tried searching all over locally for a large male to add with her for the longest time. She put on some size very quickly, and and perhaps turn a tiny bit male . We finally found one we thought looked big at the LFS, but he was still smaller then her. The male coloration seemed to be turning female day-by-day, but has stopped. There is no question the female bosses the new male around. To be honest, I think the male has reverted back to female a touch. He's mostly a ruby red now. Not at all the white/pink you'd expect from a male Lyretail.
Other Anthias I've tried and have died are, Dispars, Lori's, and Purple Chromis (Luzonichthys sp.). The female Lyretail is directly responsible for the purple chromis's deaths. All they could do was hide behind a powerhead. Dispar's and Lori's were dumb purchases, both had internal parasites I thought I could remedy. You can't if they don't eat....
aquaknight
Active Member
Here's the surviving female and the male that died, taken a few days after we got them (Jan 07).
And one of them just a few weeks ago, with the 'new male' we got in early 2008.
And one of them just a few weeks ago, with the 'new male' we got in early 2008.
btldreef
Moderator
Originally Posted by Shrimpy Brains
http:///forum/post/3180906
Hmmm......the red saddles are very pretty, but wonder if my six line would pick on them(timid)
On the Lyretails.....BTLD, how long have you had them?? I thought anthias would change gender in the abscence of a male. Wondering if this may happen, and if getting it female and later changing would be more hardy than getting males????
Thank you both for very nice responses.
I've read that a million places as well and been told it by more than one LFS, BUT, I've never actually met someone that had it happen, so we shall see. I've had them for a few months, the tank is only 3 months old. I'm curious to see if one changes. One is definitely bigger than the others and is the leader of their little group. I've had other tanks in the past and tried different Anthias in this tank, nothing worked except for Lyretails.
http:///forum/post/3180906
Hmmm......the red saddles are very pretty, but wonder if my six line would pick on them(timid)
On the Lyretails.....BTLD, how long have you had them?? I thought anthias would change gender in the abscence of a male. Wondering if this may happen, and if getting it female and later changing would be more hardy than getting males????
Thank you both for very nice responses.
I've read that a million places as well and been told it by more than one LFS, BUT, I've never actually met someone that had it happen, so we shall see. I've had them for a few months, the tank is only 3 months old. I'm curious to see if one changes. One is definitely bigger than the others and is the leader of their little group. I've had other tanks in the past and tried different Anthias in this tank, nothing worked except for Lyretails.
halamaya
Member
i really wante a Sunburst Anthias and a Ventrolis Anthias. The Sunburst were just too timid lost two of them very sad. First one got sick fought the ich for a month then lost her. Second one died with no signs of physical stress. Kole Tang, Coral Beauty, false percula, black ocellaris, green target dragonet, yellow watchman with pistol shrimp. My Tang never attacked her but swam by her quickly and would scare her.
btldreef
Moderator
Originally Posted by Cranberry
http:///forum/post/3181056
Just to clarify, we are saying that a lone female anthias in a tank will turn into a male? I'm searching but I'm not finding. But at any rate, you can see my lone female after 8 years did not convert.
Yes, and when there's a group of females the dominant one will, or so they say. Sort of like Clownfish, if that makes sense. I haven't actually seen it happen, just been told it does. I can't remember where I read it. It was a reputable source too. I'll try to find/remember where it was.
http:///forum/post/3181056
Just to clarify, we are saying that a lone female anthias in a tank will turn into a male? I'm searching but I'm not finding. But at any rate, you can see my lone female after 8 years did not convert.
Yes, and when there's a group of females the dominant one will, or so they say. Sort of like Clownfish, if that makes sense. I haven't actually seen it happen, just been told it does. I can't remember where I read it. It was a reputable source too. I'll try to find/remember where it was.
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shrimpy brains
Guest
Originally Posted by Cranberry
http:///forum/post/3181427
Okay, I was saying a lone female anthias. Yes, if you get a few females, one will become dominant and more than likely convert.
Sorry, Cran! My thought was,(since you said you couldn't keep males) instead of getting a male and 2 females. Maybe it would be better to buy 3 females and wait for one to convert. I didn't mean a lone female. I am also not sure where I read it, but someone said (or wrote)that the process takes a long time. I didn't think they meant 8 years, but your pics. lead me to question whether she was changing and just not sure. Or is it common for the dorsal fin to change with age in females?
Very interesting.....thanks for sharing!
http:///forum/post/3181427
Okay, I was saying a lone female anthias. Yes, if you get a few females, one will become dominant and more than likely convert.
Sorry, Cran! My thought was,(since you said you couldn't keep males) instead of getting a male and 2 females. Maybe it would be better to buy 3 females and wait for one to convert. I didn't mean a lone female. I am also not sure where I read it, but someone said (or wrote)that the process takes a long time. I didn't think they meant 8 years, but your pics. lead me to question whether she was changing and just not sure. Or is it common for the dorsal fin to change with age in females?
Very interesting.....thanks for sharing!
cranberry
Active Member
If you look at underwater reef scenes you see obvious males, obvious females and then some females with the elongated spine. I think it's a maturity thing personally. But I have nothing to back that up. But she didn't look like a male. I bet you would have better luck with converting the male verses buying the male. The males I owned were bought that way. I would be interested in some data on that!
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shrimpy brains
Guest
Aquaknight: You feed 3 to 4 times daily??
Wondering, cause that's what I've been reading and seems like a lot of tank pollution.
Also, any issues with the Chalk basslets? Are they timid?
I am trying to find the right fish to add to my 125g. So far the Lyretail seems to be the right fit(if I go with anthias)
But maybe a couple of chalk basslets and a Tomini Tang????
Wondering, cause that's what I've been reading and seems like a lot of tank pollution.
Also, any issues with the Chalk basslets? Are they timid?
I am trying to find the right fish to add to my 125g. So far the Lyretail seems to be the right fit(if I go with anthias)
But maybe a couple of chalk basslets and a Tomini Tang????
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shrimpy brains
Guest
Originally Posted by Cranberry
http:///forum/post/3181472
If you look at underwater reef scenes you see obvious males, obvious females and then some females with the elongated spine. I think it's a maturity thing personally. But I have nothing to back that up. But she didn't look like a male. I bet you would have better luck with converting the male verses buying the male. The males I owned were bought that way. I would be interested in some data on that!
Well, if I go with the Lyretails, it will be 3 females. (so if it happens, I could let you know) Maybe one of BTLD's 3 will change.
The only data I could tell you (off the top of my head) would be Wikopedia and the doctors mention that these fish will change gender in the abscence of a male.
Neither specify that they have to be in a group setting, but I'm betting that the group need would be a contributing factor to the onset of the change.
Unfortnately, I was leaning towards a trio of Bartlett's or Carberryi before posting this thread. I was hoping someone would respond that had on of these. I like the coloring on these fish better, but not sure they would be a "fit" for my tank and it's current inhabitants.
I also, love your splotched anthias, but they are a little pricey for me, and seemingly too aggressive for my tank.
Looking for something, not too timid, not too aggressive, just right.
http:///forum/post/3181472
If you look at underwater reef scenes you see obvious males, obvious females and then some females with the elongated spine. I think it's a maturity thing personally. But I have nothing to back that up. But she didn't look like a male. I bet you would have better luck with converting the male verses buying the male. The males I owned were bought that way. I would be interested in some data on that!
Well, if I go with the Lyretails, it will be 3 females. (so if it happens, I could let you know) Maybe one of BTLD's 3 will change.
The only data I could tell you (off the top of my head) would be Wikopedia and the doctors mention that these fish will change gender in the abscence of a male.
Neither specify that they have to be in a group setting, but I'm betting that the group need would be a contributing factor to the onset of the change.
Unfortnately, I was leaning towards a trio of Bartlett's or Carberryi before posting this thread. I was hoping someone would respond that had on of these. I like the coloring on these fish better, but not sure they would be a "fit" for my tank and it's current inhabitants.
I also, love your splotched anthias, but they are a little pricey for me, and seemingly too aggressive for my tank.
Looking for something, not too timid, not too aggressive, just right.
