wierd water problems

slowpoe

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I have a 20 gal tank with 20 lbs live sand. I tested my tap water and it tested fine so i filled my tank and put in my salt then i tested the water in the tank my hardness is over 425 ppm and my alkalinity is over 300 ppm but when i test my tap water it tests find. My Ph is currently about a 7.7 what do i do? can i add fish any ways i have emptied my tank 3 times i have even added 8 gal of spring RO water.
 

carshark

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Originally Posted by slowpoe
I have a 20 gal tank with 20 lbs live sand. I tested my tap water and it tested fine so i filled my tank and put in my salt then i tested the water in the tank my hardness is over 425 ppm and my alkalinity is over 300 ppm but when i test my tap water it tests find. My Ph is currently about a 7.7 what do i do? can i add fish any ways i have emptied my tank 3 times i have even added 8 gal of spring RO water.

have you added any sort of conditioner? tap water should not test fine, and when you say test fine, you tested for chlorine and other minerals in the water? that water is extremely hard, and i believe issue of high alk. your tank is no where near being ready for fish, if you have not added any fish, drain it, fill it up with premixed saltwater using RO water, turn on filtration after your dust settles, and throw in a shrimp from the grocery store and kickstart a cycle. it will be a minimum of 2-3 weeks before your tank is ready.... once you see your levels spike up take out the shrimp and let it cycle, once your levels stabilize at 0, or atleast everything else is 0 with nitrates at 20 or less throw in your cleaner crew, and let them get to work, after you see your nitrates go down and you have waited at least 1 week and a half then add one fish at a time with at least 3 week intervals to let your bioload catch up...
footnote: the shrimp will kickstart a cycle, but id recommend using Live rock, it is beneficial to your tank and will help with bio-filtration, decoration, and cover for your fish.
 

slowpoe

Member
my tap water tested ph 7.0 Alk 240 hardness 120 and yes i did add stress zyme and stress coat to the water. im using live sand.
 

slowpoe

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the rest of my tank test normal but i have been using this water for like 3-4 days. when will i see my levels peak? how do i take the hardness level down? I dont want to change my water cus it already has salt in it and i dont want to spend 17 bucks for salt. plz help
 

fishieness

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you may have a low pH form inadequate flow levels...... what turnover rate do you have? wait.... is yoru tank still cycling?
 

carshark

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Originally Posted by slowpoe
the rest of my tank test normal but i have been using this water for like 3-4 days. when will i see my levels peak? how do i take the hardness level down? I dont want to change my water cus it already has salt in it and i dont want to spend 17 bucks for salt. plz help

if you dont have any fish or organisms in there, i strongly recommend spending the 17 dollars again, if you are concerned about 17 bucks in this hobby you are in serious trouble. not flaming you here man, it could potentially cost you a lot more than 17 bucks down the road because of the use of tapwater...
please before you proceed i urge you to search and search this site as well as read "The Conscientious Marine Aquarist" by Bob Fenner... read this all the way, and then decide if you still want to have a saltwater aquarium.. I can only give you suggestions, As I will try to the best of my ability to give the correct information... its your choice to listen good luck
 

mikeyjer

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Do you have a ***** near by, they sell premixed water for $5.99 / 5 gallons. It's all good and ready to go. That'll give you a jump start with good water. Then that'll save you the time to mix the salt and all that stuff. Good Luck!! :happyfish
 

fishieness

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your still cycling. you have no worries. all your levels will be out of wack for a while until the cycle is over. However, the pH could be fixed by a necessary increase of flow!! a 5 X turnoever rate is not enough!! you would need at least 15 IMO. 18-22 if you have a reef tank. Get some small powerheads and apread them out. Or depending on where your other one isl./ just make sure you have enough flow and it is spread out.
 
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