"Wild" dogs

[lsu]

Sorry to bring this up again. I was at one of my deer leases earlier today and the dang old feral dogs were back. My cousin and I shot twenty-five. Nineteen confirmed dead and the rest I assume were mortally wounded, 223 rounds do the trick. It bothers me that I keep having to deal with peoples "pets", that they dump out in the "country",i.e. my land. I hate to keep shooting the s.o.b's. but it seems to be an ever present issue.

 

[jennythebugg]

you did what you had to do

 

[rbaldino]

I dont mean to pick a fight here, but it bothers me a bit that people feel like they need to shoot deer and "feral" animals on land that deer and other animals were on long before people started living and recreating there. Maybe it's only appropriate that the animals take the land back. Just my 2 cents.

 

[zman1]

rbaldino - Not to stir you up.....
It's his choice if he wants to eat Venison. Or for that matter beef, pork, chicken, lamb, guinea fowl, bison meat, antelope, elk, reindeer, rabbit, quail, squab, pheasant, partridge, squirrel, fish, turtle, frog. etc. Also, has a right to protect himself, his family, friends and property from a wild pack of dogs. I will guess they are not an indigenous breed to NA either. However , were once pets that got dumped by their irresponsible owners.

 

[rbaldino]

Originally Posted by zman1
rbaldino - Not to stir you up.....
It's his choice if he wants to eat Venison. Or for that matter beef, pork, chicken, lamb, guinea fowl, bison meat, antelope, elk, reindeer, rabbit, quail, squab, pheasant, partridge, squirrel, fish, turtle, frog. etc. Also, has a right to protect himself, his family, friends and property from a wild pack of dogs. I will guess they are not an indigenous breed to NA either. However , were once pets that got dumped by their irresponsible owners.
It is his choice, but he could also buy most of that stuff at a grocery store and not put himself in danger of being attacked by a pack of wild dogs. I'm sorry, but I just don't particularly sympathize. I live in an area where people sometimes encounter cougars or bears, and I don't see anyone running around with rifles worrying that they're going to get attacked.

 

[zman1]

Originally Posted by rbaldino
I don't see anyone running around with rifles worrying that they're going to get attacked.
Just a mother choking a rabid raccoon to death with her hands in recent days and she wasn't even hunting on purpose.
I take it that you never lived in the country or have any family that farms. That would make it hard too relate with others about wild dogs.
The meat in grocery stores doesn't get there by the animals wondering in the backdoor and jumping into packages for you to take home. The big animals are either shot or smacked in the head with a sledge hammer before they make to the packages you buy. The big slaughter houses may use a pneumatic hammer, not sure.

 

[b bauer]

rabies is a big problem here. its so bad hey have to drop vaccines from helicopters

 

[rbaldino]

Originally Posted by zman1
Just a mother choking a rabid raccoon to death with her hands in recent days and she wasn't even hunting on purpose.
I take it that you never lived in the country or have any family that farms. That would make it hard too relate with others about wild dogs.
The meat in grocery stores doesn't get there by the animals wondering in the backdoor and jumping into packages for you to take home. The big animals are either shot or smacked in the head with a sledge hammer before they make to the packages you buy. The big slaughter houses may use a pneumatic hammer, not sure.
I have family that live in areas that could be considered "country," but no one that lives off the land, per se. At the same time, in the area I live, there are things far worse than a few feral dogs. Like I said, cougars and bears are routinely spotted, sometimes walking through commercial areas that a few hours later would be full of people. And I know where my meat comes from. My point was that in the 21st century you can get it without putting yourself in any kind of danger. And I seriously doubt the big slaughter houses ever worry about packs of wild dogs.

 

[groupergenius]

Originally Posted by rbaldino
I have family that live in areas that could be considered "country," but no one that lives off the land, per se. At the same time, in the area I live, there are things far worse than a few feral dogs. Like I said, cougars and bears are routinely spotted, sometimes walking through commercial areas that a few hours later would be full of people. And I know where my meat comes from. My point was that in the 21st century you can get it without putting yourself in any kind of danger. And I seriously doubt the big slaughter houses ever worry about packs of wild dogs.
I would rather take on 1 cougar or bear than 15 hungry dogs. Just my .02

 

[zman1]

Originally Posted by rbaldino
And I seriously doubt the big slaughter houses ever worry about packs of wild dogs.
Once again- The livestock comes from the country - Small, medium, or large farms and they the farmers/ranchers do care about packs of wild dogs.
Protect themselves, family, friends and property Also, ultimately you in order to provide food to feed your hungry gut... FSC

 

[rbaldino]

Originally Posted by GrouperGenius
I would rather take on 1 cougar or bear than 15 hungry dogs. Just my .02
Well, the cougar would probably kill you quicker. And considering that the dogs were most likely at one time somebody's pets, I suspect that their killer instinct wouldn't be all that well-honed.

 

[rbaldino]

Originally Posted by zman1
Once again- The live stock comes from the country - Small, medium, or large farms and they the farmers/ranchers do care about packs of wild dogs.
Protect themselves, family, friends and property Also, ultimately you in order to provide food to feed your hungry gut... FSC
You know, I think we're missing the real villains here: the people abandoning the dogs. I vote we shoot them.

 

[zman1]

Originally Posted by rbaldino
You know, I think we're missing the real villains here: the people abandoning the dogs. I vote we shoot them.

Now we can agree

 

[smartorl]

Now that is something to agree upon!!!!
One overlooked point, alot of hunting leases, at least in this area, are actually on cattle ranches. It is a common way of supplementing the ranch income which would be hard to live on otherwise. Here is is common practice for ranch owners to instruct the hunting members to kill or catch all stray dogs before they can kill livestock.
I love animals but can respect someone's choice to feed their family as well. Most (not all) hunters are alot more humane than the slaughterhouse workers. I would much rather eat venison that roamed free until it's death than a poor chicken that lived in it's own crap, with it's beak partially removed for a few months before it was dangled upside down and allowed to bleed to death. McNuggets aren't so happy are they?

 

[agent-x]

Originally Posted by LSU
Sorry to bring this up again. I was at one of my deer leases earlier today and the dang old feral dogs were back. My cousin and I shot twenty-five. Nineteen confirmed dead and the rest I assume were mortally wounded, 223 rounds do the trick. It bothers me that I keep having to deal with peoples "pets", that they dump out in the "country",i.e. my land. I hate to keep shooting the s.o.b's. but it seems to be an ever present issue.
It seems like you bring this up just to "stir the pot". I could care less that you and your family feel the need to shoot dogs because they get in the way of you climbing up in a stand to shoot a deer. I have no problems with having to defend your livestock by shooting predatory animals. We used to own a farm, so I understand the need. But we only did it if the livestock were threatened.
Also, you guys must be trained snipers or something, because everytime I ever had to shoot at a pack of Coyotes I could get one or maybe two before the pack split up and started running. so to kill 19 you would have had to bait them or they were just unusually dumb and had no will to live. but it sounds to me that you went out with the intent of killing them and then came here, to a site with know animal lovers to rile them up.
I have to say that. I have nothing against hunting either. If your going to use what you kill. i.e. eat the meat and/or use the pelt.