Will this fish list work?

biggredd

Member
I currently have a 125 reef tank that I love. I have my house for sale and at the new one (if I ever sell this one) I want to add another tank. I'm looking to make it an aggressive tank with minimal stuff. So tell me if this is a compatable list.
Snowflake eel
Black puffer
Lion fish
Clown trigger
Maybe a small shark?
First off, will these fish work together? 2nd; what is the minimum reasonable size for this list? I was hoping a 180 or a 210 might work but want suggestions.
 

sharkboy13

Active Member
ditch the clown cuz theyll make it a species only, maybe a coral cat shark since the bare minimum is 125 tho i would not reccomend it.
 
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shark bait

Guest
Nope you need a 72 l x30 w size for a shark like the cat shark for it to be happy. I have seen 180g 72x24 but that foot print is to small for the shark to turn once it gets old. I would think about what of these three fish you like the most, puffer, clown trigger or lion. Reason be that the clown should not be put in with the lion, nor the puffer as they will nip at the lion. Now it can be done with caution, but this story has had a bad out come for many people who did a set up with these fish. The clown trigger is a fish that has major personality and looks awsome. It is hardy and eats anything. The lion is hardy but is harder to feed. And do not feed goldfish, as I am sure you have been told that. So I wish you luck.
 

sharkboy13

Active Member
basically evrything he said, except i would say puffers can be kept w/ lions w/ about 83% positive experience. puffers wont always pick at lions fins, i have heard more positive experiences than negative ones w/ this mix, altho caution should still be had.
 

biggredd

Member
I have 2 votes against the clown trigger. What size tank is generally used with a 72" x 30" footprint? I have a 71" T5 daylight bulb. Would this and maybe a 48" additional bulb be sufficient lighting? Assuming a coral cat shark, maybe this fishlist?
Coral catshark
Black puffer
Volitan Lion
Snowflake eel
Humu Humu trigger
Stingray?
My plan right now would be to build my own stand, as I did for my 6 foot 125. I will drill the tank. Maybe a 55 gallon sump, no refugium. A Protein skimmer, the lights listed above (basic lighting). Maybe a 3-4" sand bed. And just a few rock structures for hiding about a foot apart from one another. I will probably push for 10-15x turnover?
 

sharkboy13

Active Member
no triggers puffers large angels and wrasses w/ sharks and rays, they will pick the eyes out of the shakr or ray, otherwise the list might work. nvmd the list wont work, ray gets to big
 
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shark bait

Guest
Originally Posted by Biggredd
I have 2 votes against the clown trigger. What size tank is generally used with a 72" x 30" footprint? I have a 71" T5 daylight bulb. Would this and maybe a 48" additional bulb be sufficient lighting? Assuming a coral cat shark, maybe this fishlist?
Coral catshark
Black puffer
Volitan Lion
Snowflake eel
Humu Humu trigger
Stingray?
My plan right now would be to build my own stand, as I did for my 6 foot 125. I will drill the tank. Maybe a 55 gallon sump, no refugium. A Protein skimmer, the lights listed above (basic lighting). Maybe a 3-4" sand bed. And just a few rock structures for hiding about a foot apart from one another. I will probably push for 10-15x turnover?

The tank will be 225 gal or more with 72X30
Again no puffers or trigers with sharks. Please read my post about sharks, and then plan around the shark, not its tank mates. Light for sharks is not a big deal, but to much is. Most of the sharks in the trade like to hide under rocks and come out to feed a dusk and dawn and are active at night.
I will be happy to give you any info on sharks as I have taken in may from people who did not do the needed home work and ended up with a 3 foot black tip in a 72 gal bow, such as the one I will be driving 2 (one way) hours today to get!! Just do what fits the wallet, and the space you have. I am lucky that I have a wife who loves fish and even will let me plan our vacation around it. But realy 125 is to small for sharks.
Less the shark and the ray I would say this looks fine.
https://www.saltwaterfish.com/vb/showthread.php?t=254711
 

lion_crazz

Active Member
Originally Posted by Biggredd
I have 2 votes against the clown trigger. What size tank is generally used with a 72" x 30" footprint? I have a 71" T5 daylight bulb. Would this and maybe a 48" additional bulb be sufficient lighting? Assuming a coral cat shark, maybe this fishlist?
Coral catshark
Black puffer
Volitan Lion
Snowflake eel
Humu Humu trigger
Stingray?
My plan right now would be to build my own stand, as I did for my 6 foot 125. I will drill the tank. Maybe a 55 gallon sump, no refugium. A Protein skimmer, the lights listed above (basic lighting). Maybe a 3-4" sand bed. And just a few rock structures for hiding about a foot apart from one another. I will probably push for 10-15x turnover?
You absolutely, positively cannot have any trigger or puffer with a shark or ray. The trigger will also probably harass your lion - but will definitely harass the shark and ray.
You will not a very large tank to house both the shark and ray. A tank that is 72 X 30 will not be big enough. That is about the size of my 210 and I would not even consider that big enough for a shark or ray. I would stick to the lion, eel, puffer, idea and work with that. Lose the triggers, sharks, and rays, and think about some other fish that you may like.
Also, if you are going to have a lot of messy eaters, you will need more than 10-15x turnover. I would shoot for 17-20x so that you can control the nitrates.
 
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