dirk_brijs
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will the water flow accross the room coming back up into the sump due to gravity?
or what are the issues?
or what are the issues?
will this work??? and some sneak previews of the 1032gallon DT project
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dirk_brijs
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anyone else has a good idea if it would work or not?
al&burke
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It will work as long as the lower tank is lower than the upper tank. The larger the change in height, deltaH the more flow there will be. Try it with a pitcher of water and a small hose. As long as the discharge is below the top of the water it will flow. The lower the discharge of the hose is the more volume (flow) you will get. I was trying this the other day, I was cleaning and emptying a 65 gallon tank. I had it outside on my deck, as long as the discharge of the hose was lower than the top of the tank I was emptying it drained. But as you have shown in your diagram you would be draining from the bottom of the tank, there will be nothing to stop it from draining when the power goes out, unless you put a valve that closes when the power goes out. I think it is risky like Shawn said. Now if you drained from the top of the tank with an overflow box the siphon would stop when power goes out and the water level drops to the bottom of the teeth on the overflow.
dirk_brijs
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no no I will be draining from the top of the tank. Drain holes in the DT will be drilled about 4" down from the top of the tank.
So whatever water is returned is the water that will flow over in the holes I guess no?
So whatever water is returned is the water that will flow over in the holes I guess no?
dirk_brijs
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yes back up a small distance so it would get into the sump? Only about 24"
fish wont be able to get into the flow pipes as some sort of chamber will be built inside the tank with teeth so water first have to flow into the first chamber to reach the drain holes.
Will be putting some sort of mesh though over the drains just in case something climbes into the chamber. Good point.
fish wont be able to get into the flow pipes as some sort of chamber will be built inside the tank with teeth so water first have to flow into the first chamber to reach the drain holes.
Will be putting some sort of mesh though over the drains just in case something climbes into the chamber. Good point.
2quills
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I agree it will drain that way due to gravity but I don't think that it's the best or most efficient way to do it. Just wondering what size of drains are you going with, are you planning to have two 1" drain lines that merge into a single 1" drain line? The fact that the drains flow down and then come back up means that gravity also has to work against head pressure on it's way back up into the sump.
Also agree that you need to cover the bulkheads with some overflows...not just to prevent critters from getting into them but because you'll probably want to set your waterline a little closer to the top of the tank.
Also agree that you need to cover the bulkheads with some overflows...not just to prevent critters from getting into them but because you'll probably want to set your waterline a little closer to the top of the tank.
dirk_brijs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by acrylic51 http:///forum/thread/380300/will-this-work#post_3309656
Why the drop and back up again?
water has to travel across the room as the sump will be sitting on the other side of the room.
So when entering the room dont have to crawl under or over any plumbing.
Am designing a fish room where everything will be visible in it something like a reef tank factory with all plumbing and machinery on display.
system will be 1032Gal L-shaped Display tank with natural lighting (7 solartubes) sump 165Gal refugium filled with a large turf scrubber 165Gal. A low hight frag tank from 125gal.
with a room built around.
This all to come to a theater near you by next year.
Originally Posted by acrylic51 http:///forum/thread/380300/will-this-work#post_3309656
Why the drop and back up again?
water has to travel across the room as the sump will be sitting on the other side of the room.
So when entering the room dont have to crawl under or over any plumbing.
Am designing a fish room where everything will be visible in it something like a reef tank factory with all plumbing and machinery on display.
system will be 1032Gal L-shaped Display tank with natural lighting (7 solartubes) sump 165Gal refugium filled with a large turf scrubber 165Gal. A low hight frag tank from 125gal.
with a room built around.
This all to come to a theater near you by next year.
dirk_brijs
Member
about 2.8m ( about 8ft I guess) at its max distance.
acrylic51
Active Member
Quote:
Originally Posted by dirk_brijs http:///forum/thread/380300/will-this-work#post_3309665
water has to travel across the room as the sump will be sitting on the other side of the room.
So when entering the room dont have to crawl under or over any plumbing.
Am designing a fish room where everything will be visible in it something like a reef tank factory with all plumbing and machinery on display.
system will be 1032Gal L-shaped Display tank with natural lighting (7 solartubes) sump 165Gal refugium filled with a large turf scrubber 165Gal. A low hight frag tank from 125gal.
with a room built around.
This all to come to a theater near you by next year.
I'm waiting for the showing!!!!!!
I love masterpieces in the works!!!!! Is it possible to run the plumbing along the wall around to where the sump is placed? You would just need to slope the plumbing for this type of run.....I think it's something like 1" for every 10' of run?????
Originally Posted by dirk_brijs http:///forum/thread/380300/will-this-work#post_3309665
water has to travel across the room as the sump will be sitting on the other side of the room.
So when entering the room dont have to crawl under or over any plumbing.
Am designing a fish room where everything will be visible in it something like a reef tank factory with all plumbing and machinery on display.
system will be 1032Gal L-shaped Display tank with natural lighting (7 solartubes) sump 165Gal refugium filled with a large turf scrubber 165Gal. A low hight frag tank from 125gal.
with a room built around.
This all to come to a theater near you by next year.
I'm waiting for the showing!!!!!!
dirk_brijs
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not really tank is placed between a glass sliding door and a open space towards the rest of the house.
Tank will also have 2 sides showing to the outside so glass built in the walls.
little preview
sump and fuge will be placed right accross the room of the longest leg of the L-shape.
Tank will also have 2 sides showing to the outside so glass built in the walls.
little preview
sump and fuge will be placed right accross the room of the longest leg of the L-shape.
acrylic51
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Very nice drawings!!!!!!
Honestly I don't know if I'd feel safe running it 24/7 unless I did a mock up of the plumbing and flow testing it with the pump of choice.....At least with a mock up running it on a CL sorta design you could see what the flow would be and possibly be able to troubleshoot it and work any kinks or make mods before the actually build. I am assuming the room is already built and glass walls are in place?
dirk_brijs
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nope nothing is built as yet.
This will be a special built for a special hobby
all to start next year around June
This will be a special built for a special hobby
all to start next year around June