Would This Combination Work?(Fish and eq. List)

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agressivefish

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OK, here is how my system will be set up. From my overflow on my main tank i will use a T to split the water flow between 2 tanks. One tube will lead to the 29 gallon and the other to the sump. The 29 gallon has to bulkheads in the back that have my famous diy SILENT drainer. The two bulkheads join together with pvc and lead to the sump and the water is pumped back to the main tank and the process starts again.
My list of equipment ill be using...
~Biowheel Filter(Size 200 i think)
~Sump
~Bio media-Sand And Live Rock Rubble Mix
~2 Maxi-Jet 900's in the 75 and 1 Maxi-Jet 900 in the 29.
~300 watt Visi-therm heater
~Refractometer
~Other things for mixing salt etc. etc. etc.
I Will be using a refugium. That is what my 29 gallon will be for. I will be using it as a denitrifier(sp?).It will have a dsb with various inverts. I will also be growing mangroves in my sump.
25% Percent Water Changes Will be conducted every 2 weeks or when necessary.
Will test my water once a week or as necessary.
Now to my inhabitant list...(This is where i am confused)
Fish...
-Humu Humu Triggerfish(I Have to have this)
-Snow Flake Eel(Will this live with all the other inhabitants?)
-Javanese Damselfish(This will be the 1st fish.)
-Maroon Clownfish(I Like this guy)
 
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agressivefish

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-So you may be like WHOA! Thats a HUGE bioload! Well, it really isn't because everything is connected.
~The Main Tank(75 Gallon)
~The Sump(About 20 Gallons)
~The 29 Gallon Refugium
It's Actually a Bio-Load of about 125 gallons.
Inverts(Main Tank)....
Blue Leg Hermit Crab(5)
Hawaiian Zebra Hermit Crab(5)
Jade Hermit Crab(5)
Scarlet Hermit Crab(5)
~The Reason all of them are hermits is because i thought they may be compatible with the eel.
Inverts(Refugium)
Serpent Star Fish(2)
Cleaner Clams(2)
Emerald Crab(1)
~Also I Would have a bit of live rock and a dsb of live sand with some saltwater plants(calpura(sp?) in the refugium.
So would this work? Are my matienence(sp?) tasks worthy? I know there are a few other but i didn't list them. Are the fish compatible? Is my refugium good? Is there anything else you think i should know?
Thanks in advance...
 

eaglewonj

Member
Originally Posted by Agressivefish
~NO PROTEIN SKIMMER!!!(They're unnatural, you don't see a big tube with bubbles making foam in the ocean ;) )

Well there are waves and sea foam..... that is bubbles and mixing and foam production in the ocean...
 

memphis

Member
~NO PROTEIN SKIMMER!!!(They're unnatural, you don't see a big tube with bubbles making foam in the ocean ;) )
Ummm Ocean = 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 gallons
yo tank = not so much
Get a skimmer.
 

eaglewonj

Member
Originally Posted by Memphis
~NO PROTEIN SKIMMER!!!(They're unnatural, you don't see a big tube with bubbles making foam in the ocean ;) )
Ummm Ocean = 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 gallons
yo tank = not so much
Get a skimmer.

Ok..... he has a point though, as much as we strive to simulate the normal ecological balance of the ocean the limited size (even those fortunate enough to have 3, 4, 5, 800 gallon tanks) still do not come close to the mass and surface area of the ocean for the bioload we wish to impart upon it. Therefore some unnatural things, (i.e heaters. artificial lighting, pumps, supplements, etc must all be added to successfully compensate for what we aren't (mother nature). The protein skimmer is worth it. Just get one, look at the crap it pulls out and you will never question one again.
 

memphis

Member
lol... I was not trying to be a butt head but with any fish in a tank I think they are almost a necessity.
 

eaglewonj

Member
Originally Posted by Memphis
lol... I was not trying to be a butt head but with any fish in a tank I think they are almost a necessity.

I am just cycling and the gunk that has come out just from the live rock there scares me...
 
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agressivefish

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anyone. I guess i have no choice but to get a protein skimmer.
 

sly

Active Member
You're wrong about the skimmer... the ocean does have one. It's called the beach. When surf crashes on the shore it churns up foam. Dirt and dissolved organics get electrically attracted to the foam and stick. The foam from the surf slowly sinks into the sand where bacteria work to break apart the wastes into simple compounds, thus cleaning the ocean.
Ever see trash wash up onto the beach? This is on purpose. The beach is designed to be the ocean's protein skimmer. The main difference between ours and nature's is the throwing away the skimmate. Where we empty the cup, nature breaks it down in the sandbed. This is also why it is bad to put sand straight off the beach into your tank. You are essentially putting in the ocean's "sewage".
If you want to go as low impact and as natural as possible, research "Berlin systems" on google. This methodology is probably what you are looking for. Look for berlin airlift skimmers.
 

1journeyman

Active Member
Mangroves grow slowly and will not export much. They also get huge and need to be watched as the roots can find seems in the tank and crack it.
If you put plants in your display 1 of 2 things will happen: it will take over or it will be eaten up.
The skimmer issue has been addressed. You're using pumps, lights, pvc, heater, etc. for your tank. None of those things are found in the ocean either..........
 

kayak385

Member
Originally Posted by Sly
You're wrong about the skimmer... the ocean does have one. It's called the beach. When surf crashes on the shore it churns up foam. Dirt and dissolved organics get electrically attracted to the foam and stick. The foam from the surf slowly sinks into the sand where bacteria work to break apart the wastes into simple compounds, thus cleaning the ocean.
Ever see trash wash up onto the beach? This is on purpose. The beach is designed to be the ocean's protein skimmer. The main difference between ours and nature's is the throwing away the skimmate. Where we empty the cup, nature breaks it down in the sandbed. This is also why it is bad to put sand straight off the beach into your tank. You are essentially putting in the ocean's "sewage".
If you want to go as low impact and as natural as possible, research "Berlin systems" on google. This methodology is probably what you are looking for. Look for berlin airlift skimmers.
You forgot one thing... THATS WHERE WE SWIM!!!! YAY!... now why don't we sled down the garbage hills or go sky diving down coal plants exhaust pipes? Oh wait, because the ocean cleans itself naturally, and we just pile it up under dirt or however else.
(This isn't meant as mean, its just funny to me, swimming on the beach after starting my aquarium research is never going to be the same...)
 

dragonzim

Active Member
A couple of things that havent been mentioned.... A Humu Humu will absolutely outgrow a 75. Even if you get it small it will still outgrow it. Plus, with that fish you can kiss your inverts goodbye!
 
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