WOW, lots to research

badkarma

New Member
Just wanted to say hi to all here. I am very interested in getting involved with this hobby and am very happy I found this site. I realize that this will take a lot of time, and I've definitely got the patience... just trying to narrow down what I think I want and take it from there!
 

ifusayso

Member
Originally Posted by badkarma
Just wanted to say hi to all here. I am very interested in getting involved with this hobby and am very happy I found this site. I realize that this will take a lot of time, and I've definitely got the patience... just trying to narrow down what I think I want and take it from there!

Welcome!!
I've been posting on these boards only about a month and have found a wealth of information. There is plenty of information already posted, but if you can't find what your looking for, don't hesitate to post your question. The people here will definitely get your questions answered. This site has saved me over and over again.
:happyfish
 
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kimc

Guest
Welcome!!! This site is my saltwater bible... Tons of great info and really nice people ready to answer questions and help with problems!!!
 
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jdragunas

Guest
yep, this site is the best! Welcome, and i hope you enjoy the hobby as much as we do!!!
 

oceanists

Active Member
Welcome to the marine world , this site is by far the best on the net , with alot of awesome people some of the most informative are Ophuira (Starfish) Thomas is a freaking encyclopedia , Bang Guy has alot of good info , that just to name a few .............. we all really have good info , and we learn from each others mistakes ....... i would call this site a big family really.
Me and Jenn are in a gang ....... we dont have a name as of yet , i was thinking the "Get paid to be on SWF.com while at Work..........ers
I do have to warn you initiation can be pretty intense.
 
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jdragunas

Guest
yes it can!!! many rituals... if you can keep up, you can join if you want!
and we're the "get paid to swf.com'ers", remember???
 

oceanists

Active Member
LOL ....... oh yeah i forgot about the name
ummm yeah were totally nerds .. at least we keep it fun thoug ........
anyway i gotta goto training , i have to learn all new system for the last have of my day for the next 2 weeks ....... see ya when i get home
 

puffer32

Active Member
Welcome!
Some of us have been into SW for along time, but still have questions, so here is where we come for answers.
 

maeistero

Active Member
welcome, i could only wish i still had my time in fl like i used to. you have many, many more resources than most people on this board. if you happen to come across great deals please let us know and be willing to ship to us in the midwest. there's a lot of hard equipment out there that can be traded for cheap livestock if the stock is shipped carefully and anally.


p.s. there's a search function i guess. try that for any questions and then post if you need help. or feel free to pm anyone.
 

badkarma

New Member
Wow, cool! I'll definitely keep an eye out. I have access to shipping items, so I'd be open to this... what would people be looking for, or does this differ from person to person?
I think I've narrowed down my interest to a reef tank... also been thinking about checking into an "all-glass" 58 or 75 gallon tank and going from there. I've been reading about this all afternoon and I'm about to check into something from ******* to see which paths I need to start down.
 
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jdragunas

Guest
your number one step should be to buy a book called "the conscientious marine aquarist" by robert fenner. This book is amazing!!! tells you everything you'll need to know about saltwater aquariums, how to set them up, and how to maintain them.
 

badkarma

New Member
Thanks!
I've actually added that book, along with "The New Marine Aquarium: Step-By-Step Setup & Stocking Guide" on my Amazon wish list. There is so much info to sift through!
 
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jdragunas

Guest
there's another great book for later in the game called "the pocketexpert guide to marine fish" by scott michael. This book is a reference guide to 500+ of the most common marine fish. It tells you everything you need to know about them, including the max size they get, the aquarium size needed, what they eat, who they're compatible with, and much more! It's a great book!!!
 
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thomas712

Guest
Welcome to the board.
You will find yourself overwhelmed immediatly, as you become:
1. Part chemist
2. Part plumber
3. Part marine biologist
From there you can branch out into any specialty that you desire. One bit of advice. Before you go out and buy and slap anything together, check here with your plans, it could be that we could give you better ideas, save you some trouble, or tell you if a product might not be worth it.
See you around :happyfish
Thomas
 
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jdragunas

Guest
oh yes, another thing... thomas is probably the smartest person in the world! heed his advice!
 

badkarma

New Member
I kinda figured as much, and I appreciate the offer Thomas! I think it's going to be a while before I really know what I'm going to end up with. Based on all of the reading I've been doing, I think I need to price out a lot of this stuff and keep reading before I make any kind of decision.
I think I'm really starting to lean towards the reef layout based on what I've read and what I know my tastes to be. I've got to research a lot more to figure out which substrate to use, and how to plan it out correctly....
 
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thomas712

Guest
Originally Posted by jdragunas
oh yes, another thing... thomas is probably the smartest person in the world! heed his advice!
Think you can tone that down a bit

I am mud for brains compared to Bang Guy
I don't have near the eloquence of NMReef
And both their tanks, including Beth's (when she had her tank) were to absolutly die for. There tanks and knowledge make me and my tank look like a poor reefer with gold fish.
I'm expert at nothing, I just use the tools at hand.
Thomas
 
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jdragunas

Guest
well, a few pointers... it may be easier to start out as a FOWLR (fish only with live rock), and eventually upgrade to a reef. This way, you can get the hang of saltwatering without the expensive coral casualties. It's really like you can practice on the more hardy fish, and then creep into the corals when you're ready. Also, corals should be introduced after your tank has been established for 6 months, so it's the best way to go.
As for substrate, go with sand. If you use crushed coral, you'll be kicking yourself in the hiney later on. I'm going to quote a post by thomas:
"Most of us will not use crushed coral because it is a large substrate that traps the fish waste and uneaten food that has to be vacuumed before it creates nitrates, which it will anyway. Crushed coral does not provide a very good biological zone, and many tanks are setup with CC from the get go through lack of knowledge or because it is the only substrate that an LFS sells and tells you that it is all you need, using a selling point of CC has buffering power. I have personally battled nitrates over 100 ppm during my days of CC and UGF doing frequent large water changes. So many of us have been there and had high nitrates, did a water change to lower them and they were back in a couple of days. CC has sharp edges, which is undesirable for inverts, like anemones walking around, pods or worms. No getting around it CC is high maintenance and can lead to poor water quality, frequent maintenance, sick livestock, algae blooms and more.
"Sand on the other hand has more benefits. These include having far more surface area thereby making it able to handle a higher bio load of bacteria. It is less dangerous to your infauna and has a more natural look in the tank. If going with a DSB Deep Sand Bed you can have other benefits as well like finishing the denitrification or providing sand sifting, burrowing, or tunneling fish and critters a place to play. The denitrification process predominantly occurs in deeper substrates and in areas of stagnant flow where oxygen levels are depressed. And this is why deep sand beds are effective as a nitrogen export mechanism. As water slowly diffuses deeper, aerobic organisms strip all available oxygen for respiration. In the deep, oxygen-deprived layers, denitrifying anaerobes are given the opportunity to convert nitrogen compounds into nitrogenous gases, which escape via tiny bubble out of the aquarium. I believe this process can also work on a limited basis in shallow sand beds. My sand bed is no more than 2 inches deep in some spots."
Good luck!
 
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