Your opinions on this quote I found...

soto

Member
i was just reading it off of my starbucks cup. you know how they always put that psuedo jargon all over their stuff. anywayz, here it is:
The morality of the 21st century will depend on how we respond to this simple question: Does every human life have equal moral value simply and merely because it is human? Answer yes, and we have a chance of achieving universal human rights, Answer no, and it means that we are merely another animal in the forest

Fellow aquarists, you may begin...
 

soto

Member
now i would like to say that i don't like Starbucks so anything (except white chocolate mochas & cute female employees) coming from them will initially disgust me. hence, the following opinion was a bit tarnished & biased from the start:
i, for one, do NOT think we're as special as we'd like to place ourselves and am quite comfortable knowing that you and i are merely animals in forests. animals survive and do just fine.
a human life does NOT get equal value simply because it's a human. that's pompus. since the author is trying to justify equality by comparing us to animals then we should also first see the difference between us an animals. main difference: we have a conscious.
therefore, since we are generally more AWARE then we should value our fellow speicies by how one individual treats another. this encourages other conscious beings to build good character qualities based on the simple principle of punishment and award. peace isn't as simple as mr. starbucks would like to think.
 

soto

Member
so nobody seems to like my Starbucks morality animal thread eh??
well that's ok. you all can congradulate yourselves on getting EX'd out of my christmas card list this year.
 

puff_puff_

Member
i like it.. but i have about 5 min to get out the door. not nearly enough time to reply to that especialy since it is authored by starbucks.. check back later for my morbid opinion...
 

alyssia

Active Member
What do you guys have against Starbucks? Is it like a Walmart is trying to take over kind of thing? I've never been to Starbucks (hate coffee) so IDK what you guys are talking about.
 

soto

Member
Originally Posted by alyssia
What do you guys have against Starbucks? Is it like a Walmart is trying to take over kind of thing? I've never been to Starbucks (hate coffee) so IDK what you guys are talking about.
great question, i'm gladja asked.
has nothing to do with the whole takeover thing (despite the fact that i have stock in Deitrich's Coffee and it's never earned a dime in the last 5 years) but more of the artificial "hip authenticity" it tries to create. this is the same with restaurants like BJ's Brewery, Macaroni Grill, El Torito, and Cheesecake Factory.
these places try to follow the Disneyland model by creating a themed atmosphere and cashing in on whatever ethnicity or hip trend they deem to exploit. but here's the problem: they SUCK at it.
they need to keep it simple. it's a coffee shop. nobody wants fancy drink names, jazz music, contemporary architecture, and all sorts of trinkets for sale in a coffee shop. they want coffee. and when i want a large coffee, i want a LARGE coffee. i don't want a "venti" coffee. that's a lame word that tries to make you sound fancy but it's just a nauscious display of arrogence. quit with this whole corporate smothered pseudo hip appeal because it creates a backlash: the toolbox typical customers that are slowly morphing into a......a......oh gawd.....a generation.
now i gotta walk in and be surrounded by a bunch of hippy, vegitarian, Bush-hatin, college students fumblin around with their laptops, programming the 5,000 songs in their IPODs, texting their buddies, and discussing stuff that makes them appear smart but really just insults the intelligence of the unfortunate listener. it's early and i want coffee. people like this are NOT the way one should start their day.
NOR are the employees. don't ask me how i'm doing right when i walk in the door. it's early and i haven't had coffee- how do you THINK i'm doing??? i don't need questions at this hour! hell, i'm still drunk from the night before.
i hate all those tofu grubbin weirdos and i hate corporations trying to be hip. Walmart, on the other hand, makes me happy because Walmart doesn't try to be cool. Walmart has an attitude like "hey i've gotta bunch of crap here, nothin special but come buy it cause it's cheap."
 

lovethesea

Active Member
Originally Posted by soto
now i gotta walk in and be surrounded by a bunch of hippy, vegitarian, Bush-hatin, college students fumblin around with their laptops, programming the 5,000 songs in their IPODs, texting their buddies, and discussing stuff that makes them appear smart but really just insults the intelligence of the unfortunate listener. ."

 

lovethesea

Active Member
Originally Posted by soto
. Walmart, on the other hand, makes me happy because Walmart doesn't try to be cool. Walmart has an attitude like "hey i've gotta bunch of crap here, nothin special but come buy it cause it's cheap."

double
 

phixer

Active Member
For 3 bucks a shot, Starbucks can kiss my *ss no matter how their philosophical their paper cups are.
 

oceanists

Active Member
Starbucks is for the weak minded thinking that they have to represent themselves with money.
Hence selling contemporary art and Jazz music in a coffee shop.
Ill take a Chevron Coffee over a Venti what ever they call it starbucks coffee anyday of the week AND ill pay the same price just to avoid Star*ucks
 

oceanists

Active Member
Originally Posted by Phixer
For 3 bucks a shot, Starbucks can kiss my *ss no matter how their philosophical their paper cups are.
that shot better come with a chase of Tequila
 

triga22

Active Member
Go Dunkin Doughnuts!! YAY Yummy Donughts.. I dont drink coffe but i know dunk sells them so YAY For dunking.. Yummy
 

ruaround

Active Member
the best part of waking up is folgers in your cup...

Ben... your title is just like Jenn's :thinking: ...
 

soto

Member
ok we're swaying from the initial topic here. starbucks sux. so do the majority of it's patrons and employees. fine.
now onto my thesis of human beings being just pompus animals wandering in forests. ready? set?
GO!
 

ruaround

Active Member
so what youre saying is get to the Dust in the Wind and/or Bug vs. Windsheild...
"Does every human life have equal moral value simply and merely because it is human? Answer yes, and we have a chance of achieving universal human rights, Answer no, and it means that we are merely another animal in the forest"... I say yes to both... all life has moral value... and we are all animals meandering through the forest, or urban jungle, or countryside, or lake front property, or ocean front property searching for a way to provide the next doof & reeb fix...
 

oceanists

Active Member
Originally Posted by ruaround
the best part of waking up is folgers in your cup...

Ben... your title is just like Jenn's :thinking: ...

yeah we made that up a while back cause we were always on here during the work day
 
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