ZeroEdge Aquariums?

fretfreak13

Active Member
I was wondering if anyone went out and spent the money on one of these bad boys. I don't think I'm allowed to post a link because the site actually sells them, but here's the link anyways. If it gets removed, just google ZeroEdge. Gosh they're so cool! Even if they cost like 1000 dollars, I think it's worth it. xD Maybe I can get one someday. *stares off into space dreaming*
 

flower

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by Fretfreak13
http:///forum/post/3144140
I was wondering if anyone went out and spent the money on one of these bad boys. I don't think I'm allowed to post a link because the site actually sells them, but here's the link anyways. If it gets removed, just google ZeroEdge. Gosh they're so cool! Even if they cost like 1000 dollars, I think it's worth it. xD Maybe I can get one someday. *stares off into space dreaming*

I looked it up. To be honest all new tanks look so nice. You have to look into the future. The water will not go right to the very edge, no matter what the advertisement shows. So algae will form there at the water line. An edge hides it, but on a zeroedge, it will stand out like a sore thumb.
Now there is also no such thing as a tank with nothing attached to the back. They may show return hoses from the bottom, what about chillers, skimmers, refugiums, just to name a few items we hang on our tanks. Not to mention, sand...with everything directly on the bottom, do you go without substrate?

Last but not least...strength. The edge around a standard aquarium gives it support, no edge means all the pressure is on the edges of the tank. I just got finished reading that all tanks bow...disaster waiting to happen if there is any truth to this.
The price of those tanks is outrageous. They sell you the stand and the tank only...nothing else...for nearly $2000.00 for a small tank. Not worth the money. IMO
 

posiden

Active Member
It is a zero edge tank because the water is allowed to flow right over the sides and it returns in the trough around the tank. In one of thier pictures you can see a snail on the outside of the tank.
From what I understand of these is that the water splashes where it collects. They are also kind hard to clean the glass as you have to turn off the pump. I also think they depend on a check valve. That is the weak link. If that ever failed then your tank is in for it.
If your lucky maybe somone who owns one or knows of some one who owns one will chime in for you.
 
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jetskiking

Guest
The LFS I frequent has three zero edge tanks for there coral tanks. They also had a few a MACNA last year. they are great looking tanks. I'm not sure I'm following Flower. The water flows over the top of the aquarium and over the outside wall into a trough around the outside so I'm not sure what you mean by it not going all the way to the edge.
Here is the drawback. Don't get one unless you really like to do maintenance. because there is water on both sides of the acrylic they will grow algea on both sides including coraline. Also you have to be carefull when leaning over them because your shirt will end up drenched.
Other than that they are some of the most beutiful tanks out there. literly looks like a cube of water. A company had a three tier one at MACNA and it drew a lot of attention here is a pic.

ORA had a small one for there display also.
 

truperc

Member
I heavily looked into this tank, and talked on the phone with the owner for about 40 minutes.
I also talked to a second local guy, who helped bring it to market.
Lastly, I spoke to someone selling the tank, but independent from the actual design.
As you probably already know, the zeroedge tank has the water cascade over the top of the tank on all four sides.
So water is not going to the edge, it is going over the edge continously.
The biggest problem with this is the evaporation. I imagine salt creep is also an issue.
If you have not seen this tank live, I can tell you that it does look very cool in person.
There is going to be maintenance to the four sides, like any tank.
With this tank it is all the more important, since in my opinion, part of the appeal of the tank is viewing it from at least 3 of the 4 sides.
When the tank was originally designed, it was with clams in mind.
So basically, it is a clam tank first. However, I have seen fish, corals, anenome's, etc... in these tanks.
They are shallow tanks (clam tank), but that makes it easier to maintain. (no worries that you will not be able to reach the bottom.)
Ultimately, I decided not to go with the tank, because the cost was too high and the real estate in the tank was too small for what I wanted.
They do make larger versions, but I actually like the smaller tanks, from a visual perspective.
This is not a tank you would hang anything off the side of, since that really defeats the purpose of the tank.
The cabinet under the tank should be were you would keep any filters/refugium etc.....
In summary, a very cool tank, that costs a lot for what you get.
In addition to cost, evaporation is a draw back.
A tank that you could quickly outgrow, but there are many nano keepers who are more than satisfied with smaller tanks.
If I had money to burn, I would consider this tank as a supplemental to my existing tank.
The tank itself is a showpiece without any inhabitants.
Hope that helps.
 

fretfreak13

Active Member
*drools* I still think it's cool. It'd be awesome for a freshwater setup too. That first pic jetski posted...OMGGG!!! O_O
 

cranberry

Active Member
Number one drawback for me.... you can't get a picture of anything in there to save your life.
For some reason, I can never stand within 5 feet of this tank without getting my sleeve wet. It happens every time.
These, IMO are more for "art" in a corner than serious reef keeping. They can be very beautiful.
 
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jetskiking

Guest
Originally Posted by Fretfreak13
http:///forum/post/3144243
*drools* I still think it's cool. It'd be awesome for a freshwater setup too. That first pic jetski posted...OMGGG!!! O_O
LOL, thats what everybody was like there. It was very cool. The LFS I go to has some larger ones, I'm thinking they are 120 gallons. They make great coral tanks because they view so good top down. That fish store has to be one of the nicest I've been in. All their livestock tanks are show quility. Lucky for me its the closest one to my house.
 
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jetskiking

Guest
Originally Posted by Cranberry
http:///forum/post/3144253
Number one drawback for me.... you can't get a picture of anything in there to save your life.
For some reason, I can never stand within 5 feet of this tank without getting my sleeve wet. It happens every time.
These, IMO are more for "art" in a corner than serious reef keeping. They can be very beautiful.
I know what your saying. I have left the fishstore a couple times with the whole front of my shirt wet
. The height also has a tendancy to make you want to lean on it. One good thing is no fingerprints.
 

aquaknight

Active Member
^^^ For some strange reason, it appears the 2 people in jet's second pic, could very well be having this exact conversion about wet shirts...
 
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jetskiking

Guest
Originally Posted by AquaKnight
http:///forum/post/3144269
^^^ For some strange reason, it appears the 2 people in jet's second pic, could very well be having this exact conversion about wet shirts...
LOL, I censored it for your viewing pleasure.
 

rlablan

Active Member
There was one at a LFS that I used to shop at. Very nice MH lighting hung very high over the top and it had a few clown pairs in it, Some tomatoes and they were both hosting an anemone and there was a full blown reef in there with them. Lots of LR and lots of sand sifters. The tank was very large and it was actually octagonally shaped.
You take pictures using a viewing box. Those tanks are amazing with the boxes!! you can see fish, coral and clams in a whole new light!!
We actually wanted one, and then we thought about it.
1 it looks best in the middle of a room
2 the water cascading does make a little bit of noise
3 we have a dog who sheds.... there would be soooo much hair.
4 price is just way too much but someday...
 

aquaknight

Active Member
Originally Posted by jetskiking
http:///forum/post/3144272
LOL, I censored it for your viewing pleasure.
Nah, the 2nd pic, the blonde in the white shirt and the tubby ORA guy. What you did to the people in the 1st pic is down right creepy. Esp. the face of the girl in the middle, looks like something from The Ring

I think my next project after the 240gal, will be converting a standard glass tank to ZeroEdge.
 

flower

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by Posiden
http:///forum/post/3144205
It is a zero edge tank because the water is allowed to flow right over the sides and it returns in the trough around the tank. In one of thier pictures you can see a snail on the outside of the tank.
From what I understand of these is that the water splashes where it collects. They are also kind hard to clean the glass as you have to turn off the pump. I also think they depend on a check valve. That is the weak link. If that ever failed then your tank is in for it.
If your lucky maybe somone who owns one or knows of some one who owns one will chime in for you.

OMG...How could you prevent salt creep up the ying/yang? So what you are saying is that it is like a waterfall? One good thing I guess...if the fish jump it lands in water.
 

truperc

Member
Originally Posted by Flower
http:///forum/post/3144287

OMG...How could you prevent salt creep up the ying/yang? So what you are saying is that it is like a waterfall? One good thing I guess...if the fish jump it lands in water.
I am sure salt creep is an issue. It is definitely a tank that requires some daily maintenance.
Yes it is like a waterfall, but water is in a sheet over the sides so you can still see through the water/acrylic.
if a fish jumps, unless you have a tiered tank, it will likely land on the floor, rock, or water grate leading to the catch basin. For certain it will not land in water (Unless it jumps straight up ;) )
 

flower

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by TruPerc
http:///forum/post/3144322
I am sure salt creep is an issue. It is definitely a tank that requires some daily maintenance.
Yes it is like a waterfall, but water is in a sheet over the sides so you can still see through the water/acrylic.
if a fish jumps, unless you have a tiered tank, it will likely land on the floor, rock, or water grate leading to the catch basin. For certain it will not land in water (Unless it jumps straight up ;) )
LOL...I was being sarcastic...in the wee early morning hours. Sorry for that.
I think a tank like that with just corals would be great. Lots of daily maintenance, no doubt. The price is still outrageous. I bet in a few years this type of tank will either go the way of the dodo, or be much cheaper. Then you add the fact that it is acrylic…I personally won’t own a tank unless it is all glass.
 

fretfreak13

Active Member
Maintence to me is part of the hobby. I like it. =P Make's you feel like a proud parent when you put a lot of work into your tank and it loks phenominal.
 

posiden

Active Member
Fluval makes a tank they call the edge. It is along the same idea. It is an almost closed in box of glass. You get the same effect with out the issues. Now for it to be used as a reef it would need to be modded so you would get the proper air to water and gas exchange. It would need to be hooked up to another tanks system or make a refug for it.
 
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jetskiking

Guest
Originally Posted by TruPerc
http:///forum/post/3144322
I am sure salt creep is an issue. It is definitely a tank that requires some daily maintenance.
Yes it is like a waterfall, but water is in a sheet over the sides so you can still see through the water/acrylic.
if a fish jumps, unless you have a tiered tank, it will likely land on the floor, rock, or water grate leading to the catch basin. For certain it will not land in water (Unless it jumps straight up ;) )
Yes, the trough on the standard tanks is only about three or 4 inches wide. So they are probably going to hit the floor.
 
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