zoa frags wont open

runn3rb3an

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I got 2 new zoa frags over the weekend and they havent opened up much exept for one or two polyps. how long does it usually take them to open fully?
I also have some green zoas which I just took a nudibranch off of but they wont really all open up yet either. does anyone know why this could be?
 

nissan577

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this is some info that spanko shared with me. hopefully it helps you:
25 Reasons why your polyps won't expand.
1. You have a zoanthid eating worm.
2. Sundial snails. ( I've experienced this )
3. A fish that is nipping at them, there are several well documented cases of this. ( I've experienced this )
4. An invert doing the same. ( I've experienced this )
5. Unstable or fluctuating parameters.
6. Large Emerald Crabs or a Sally Lightfoot. Both can and will
consume, kill and cause polyp retraction. ( I've experienced this )
7. Sea Spiders. ( I've experienced this )
8. If shipped, the water was much too cold and you placed it directly into your tank without slowly drip acclimating them. Or, the inverse, the water was too warm.
9. Nudibranchs ( I've experienced this )
10. Stray Voltage. ( I've experienced this )
11. Excessively high Iodine which would prove fatal.
12. Light shock
13. Polyps that were kept in PC or VHOs and then placed mid to high level under MH's without light acclimating them. Possible burning could also occur.
or
Polyps that were in maybe dual 175 SE MH and then placed mid to high under 400 watt DE MH , will cause possible burning or a delayed expansion.
14. Other stinging corals.
15. Chemical warfare.
16. Overpowering current. ( I've experienced this )
17. Excessive collection of sediment.
18. Nuisance algae around the polyps which will irritate them and prevent them from expanding. ( I've experienced this )
19. Temperamental, yes, they are, there may be nothing at all wrong, that simply don’t want to expand for that day.
20. Fungus
21. Bacterial infection. ( I've experienced this )
22. White lesions also referred to as Zoa Pox. ( I've experienced this )
23. Amphipods, which I have only witnessed eating sick, dead, dying, decaying polyps. Doesn’t mean they won’t eat perfectly healthy ones, I just haven’t witnessed it, some have.
24. Extreme hypo or hyper salinity
25. And the final reason may not be any of the reasons above. Why? Periodically, polyps will retract from days to 10 to 14 days, during which they will clean themselves externally. Then without any advanced notice, they will unfold like a flower or a summer’s morning.
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runn3rb3an

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ugh thats alot. well its in a seahorse tank so the water perameters are near perfect and they are under dual power compacts I think. (standard 29 biocube lighting) theres a lot of hermits and snails around, I didnt do a freshwater dip cuz I didnt really know how and the LFS guy said it would hurt them just as much as it helped. they are about 2-3 inches apart from each other but I dont know how chemical warfare really works, flow is moderate-high, they are about 2 inches from the bottom of the tank and there arent and nuicance algaes or stinging corals. Can you find something wrong with anything there? I know its alot of info but I really appreciate the help.
today about one polyp from each of the new ones opened and closed throughout the day and my older one has about half its open.
thanks!
 

renogaw

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i just recently dipped 12 zoo frags for about 20-30 mins in fresh RO water and everything came out fine.
the lugols is a good alternative IF you read and follow the directions properly
 

renogaw

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Originally Posted by runn3rb3an
http:///forum/post/2942069
ok. ill do that. were do you get iodine from? lfs? and how would u do the dip?
make sure it's lugols or equal (well, there's not really an equal...)
you mix per instructions, then just drop the frag/rock into the solution. wait the time period per instructions, and viola.
 

runn3rb3an

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BTW where would I get iodine. the lfs I wanna go to is kinda far and dosent have a phone. do most lfs carry it
 
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