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What's the best Sand-cleaning/sifting fish?

Discussion in 'Fish Discussion' started by aquaspirit04, Feb 3, 2008.

  1. aquaspirit04

    aquaspirit04 New Member

    I might head over to my LFS, and I was thinking of investing in some sort of fish or invert to help with my sand...my sand is relatively clean..but I sift it myself...which is quite tedious...and I'd much rather have it done naturally...I heard of a certain type of crab who's really good with detritus, and then of the diamond (or is it sleeper, I've heard both responses) goby. Any suggestions are appreciated.
    Thank you!
  2. wangotango

    wangotango New Member

    Diamond gobies work well.
    -Justin
  3. patandlace

    patandlace New Member

    Dragon gobies work great. Some placed call them bullet gobies.
  4. aquaspirit04

    aquaspirit04 New Member

    Yeah, that's what I was planning on...though I might order him through swf.com...I just called my LFS for a price and he's selling him for 40 bucks! D=
  5. mcbdz

    mcbdz New Member

    I'd go with
    nassarius spp. snails. At least 1 per 10 gal
  6. tacks

    tacks New Member

    Diamond Gobies require a tight fitting lid on you tank. THEY WILL JUMP!!!
  7. ophiura

    ophiura New Member

    Why do you sift your sand?
    It is completely unnecessary to do, and even detrimental if you have a deep sand bed. Fish and things like sand sifter stars EAT the creatures that do stir the sand that are desirable - worms, crustaceans, etc. If you want a functional sand bed, I strongly enourage sand stirrers, like nassarius snails, conchs, etc rather than fish. Sand sifting fish will potentially cause problems in reef tanks as well, by spreading sand around quite a lot.
  8. sh2000

    sh2000 New Member

    there is some dirt in my sand bed in the middle how can i clean it up i have 25 nas snails in my 80 rt...2 queen conch although i belive hermit crabs took the counche's shell.. i dunno how ... but the sb is still a bit dirty and i have a diamond goby...what should i do ?
  9. alexmir

    alexmir Guest

    I have that same problem so advice would be appreciated!
  10. fish crazy

    fish crazy New Member

    do diamond gobies need a deep sandbed?
  11. sh2000

    sh2000 New Member

  12. tangwhispr

    tangwhispr New Member

    fighting conchs are great as well as nassarius snails, 2 of the best IMO whatever you do, do NOT get a sandsifting star!
  13. tangwhispr

    tangwhispr New Member

    Originally Posted by ophiura

    Why do you sift your sand?
    It is completely unnecessary to do, and even detrimental if you have a deep sand bed. Fish and things like sand sifter stars EAT the creatures that do stir the sand that are desirable - worms, crustaceans, etc. If you want a functional sand bed, I strongly enourage sand stirrers, like nassarius snails, conchs, etc rather than fish. Sand sifting fish will potentially cause problems in reef tanks as well, by spreading sand around quite a lot.
    +1 this is a perfect response
  14. big

    big New Member

    Originally Posted by ophiura

    Why do you sift your sand?
    It is completely unnecessary to do, and even detrimental if you have a deep sand bed. Fish and things like sand sifter stars EAT the creatures that do stir the sand that are desirable - worms, crustaceans, etc. If you want a functional sand bed, I strongly enourage sand stirrers, like nassarius snails, conchs, etc rather than fish. Sand sifting fish will potentially cause problems in reef tanks as well, by spreading sand around quite a lot.
    Ophiura Is correct as to the sand bed.
    My choice too if it has to be a fish would a Diamond Goby (aka) Rotor-tiller fish) if you want to have spotless substrate. But they have many downfalls too.
    The issues with them are they tend to be jumpers ( no issues with mine) quiet home no kids anymore to startle him with noise. Also a nearly 50 gallon fuge feeding the little pod eater. I have seen where they are tide poll skippers. As long as they have food in this "little tide pool" I think they do not tend to try to leave the pool (jump out of your tank) But it your tank runs out of pods etc , carpet surfing 101 seems to be their next class in school.
    The do eat just about anything in the substrate (pods included) leaving the substrate barren of seeable critters. Next, they will rearrange the landscaping of your substrate regularly!! If you have a "DSB" he will make mountains out of it in places. Other than these issues, they are just about unbeatable at keeping the substrate clean, but you pay the cost of living with these issues forever more. Plus they are a neat fish to watch work......... Good Luck.... Warren
  15. ophiura

    ophiura New Member

    Originally Posted by SH2000

    there is some dirt in my sand bed in the middle how can i clean it up i have 25 nas snails in my 80 rt...2 queen conch although i belive hermit crabs took the counche's shell.. i dunno how ... but the sb is still a bit dirty and i have a diamond goby...what should i do ?

    Generally if you have detritus accumulating on the sand, you have several issues. One is flow, meaning you have basically dead spots. The next is that you may be overfeeding, and finally, it may be your clean up crew being understaffed, so to speak.
  16. parkercandleco

    parkercandleco New Member

    i definitely would suggest getting a conch.. they do an amazing job with cleaning your sandbed.. i got one and my sandbed was looking absolutely terrible.. a week later it was white like it used to be!!!!
    so get a conch
  17. addicted2

    addicted2 New Member

    fighting conch. they do a great job and are really weird to look at...strange eyes, snout..whatever you want to call it...long nose-vaccuum hose kinda appendage..and that FOOT thing! whoa! definitely wierd.
  18. big

    big New Member

    Originally Posted by addicted2

    fighting conch. they do a great job and are really weird to look at...strange eyes, snout..whatever you want to call it...long nose-vaccuum hose kinda appendage..and that FOOT thing! whoa! definitely wierd.

    Yep they are neat, but I think this person has a 30 gallon cube. If this is that tank refered to, A fighting conch would starve in a tank that size after not too long.

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