EMERGANCY HELP PLEASE
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flower
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Okay, I did what you said and I did get it to upload a picture...but where is it? It said it was posted but I don't see it...(scratching my head in frustration)... LOL...I know made progress somewhere.
HAH!!! There it is...I don't know how...but there it is. I will try to post one of the sick seahorse tomorrow. Thank you Beth!
HAH!!! There it is...I don't know how...but there it is. I will try to post one of the sick seahorse tomorrow. Thank you Beth!
flower
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LOL...Does a snake ever really "like" anyone? ... How can you tell if they do or don't like you?
My dog now gets meds 3Xs a day, he now slinks behind the chair when I call him instead of bouncing immediately to my side. I have tried changing up, and sometimes I have steak leftovers...but he has a good smeller, and I think he also recognizes the shake of the bottle of pills, no matter how quiet I try to be when I get one out. The stuff we do in the name of love.
Can you also treat with Paragon 2 in addition to Furan 2? It could be a vibrio infection which in layman's terms is flesh eating disease. This makes some sense since you stated that other seahorses have gotten the same thing, all ending in death. Vibrio can lay dormant, until given the right conditions (such as stressed fish or environment issue) it will become active.
flower
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Seahorse.org folks said to get some stuff called MIC-F To build up it's immunity. Whatever the cause, it is vibrio (flesh eating disease). I was told that all the bristle worms, which do sting, could have been stressful and ultimately caused the horse to become sick, not so much a sore from the sting like I was thinking. At this point, I would have to completely redo the tank somehow to fix the problem.
flower
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These are Kuda, I have three, 2 females and 1 male. The tamps stay at 72-74... yes I agree, the MIC-F is just a immunity booster to give the fish a fighting chance to help it overcome disease on it's own. It isn't a treatment for the disease at all. I was told to be patient, if the sore is shrinking, it's a good sign. Even if the horse still has the sore after the 10 days, as long as the sore is shrinking to not add anymore medicine, just keep a watch on it. If the disease continues, THEN treat with another antibiotic, I would have to switch up and not over use the same one.
Anything done to "boost immune" generally needs to be done before the fish is ill. Afterwards, no effect really. Afterwards good nutrition and pristine water, satisfying the fish's basic needs is your best bet for an immune boost. Products only work over time to assist in prevention, not really effective to start during a crisis.
Let us know how the horse progresses! He should be showing signs of improvement if the meds you used was going to be effective.
Let us know how the horse progresses! He should be showing signs of improvement if the meds you used was going to be effective.
silverado61
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Aw Flower, I feel so bad for you. I know it must have been like losing one of your own family. My heart goes out to you lady. 
flower
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Thanks guys...It really is troubling since the meds won't arrive until tomorrow...I couldn't help but think, just one more day if she could have held on... I had put the horse in a plastic container and put it in the trash, but Emily, My granddaughter wanted a better funeral, so she buried her in the flower garden out front of my living room window, and she placed a flower from each of us to mark her little grave.
flower
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I didn't order the MIC-F, that was just to up the immune system. I ordered more Furan-2, to have it on hand later if I needed it. I wanted to keep my fish medicine supply ready. The med I was waiting for is called Eryhromycin, it's supposed to be for SW fish that has internal infection as well as external. Since the horses wound was at it's vent, I thought maybe treating it only externally wasn't enough. I didn't do that last water change because I had hoped to just leave the furan-2 in there until the new medication arrived. That may have been a bad call on my part, the tank was cycled with plenty of sponge so no ammonia spikes, and it had plenty of surface movement for gas exchange. The water when I cleaned the hospital tank up, was double the yellow color of the medicine, so maybe I should have followed directions better.
SIGH...a fish doctor I am not.
Eryhromycin (ingredient found in Maracyn) is a gram positive antibiotic. Typically SW fish have gram negative bacterial infections, which is why I usually recommend Maracyn 2 ( minocyclin, a tetracycline antibiotic which treats gram neg infections). A board spectrum antibiotic would treat both positive and negative bacteria. This is normally overkill for SW fish but since this could be Vibrio, it may be wise to treat aggressively with a board spectrum.
When looking at meds, be sure to find out what the core ingredient is then research that ingredient (not the brand-name or the hype printed on the medication package). If you serious fear vibrio, then you may want to proceed with treating your remaining horses as well as dealing with their fish tank.
When looking at meds, be sure to find out what the core ingredient is then research that ingredient (not the brand-name or the hype printed on the medication package). If you serious fear vibrio, then you may want to proceed with treating your remaining horses as well as dealing with their fish tank.
flower
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I have minocycline... it is in capsules, how would I use it? It wasn't sold as fish medicine, I just happen to have it from when my dog was sick. I also have Diamox, given to me by a fellow who deals with seahorses, it's in tablet form and again, no instructions on how to use it on seahorses or any other fish.
As far as I know these are people and dog medicines...
As far as I know these are people and dog medicines...