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sounds good thanks for the ino i will look into that, i am also pick up a good book on the hobby

Guys just for my own info how did you learn about starting and maintaining the nitrogen cycle

does ich get worse when the lighting is on? I have noticed more spots as the day goes on and in the morning all is pretty much gone. could this still be ich? if you are talking about a 24hr period this is not a typical ick cycle

WHAT ABOUT THE HOUSE

i'm inclined to say squamosa Actually Greg I take back my identification I must go with your assessment of it being a squamosa

If I can be of any assistance in beta testing or anything else I would be happy to help. Henry wipe your nose

looks like a Derasa, nice find

IMO the obvious advantage to either system is that you can add mechanical media to your system. In a non drilled tank I would go with a canister. I personally have never seen an in tank Refuge relating to your tank size that would give you any great benefit

Originally Posted by beaslbob I'll accept your thoughts. Noone said I wasn't the one confused. Can I now take back some of my .02? Bob some of your .02 is still good enough for me. As Henry stated can you lead us to info as to macro absorbing copper as an entity to harvest

Originally Posted by Cranberry You know I scare you the most because I'm dreaming of all those cool powertools we are going to gave to buy to cut into that wall! I'm dreaming of all those cool powertools umm cant you just use all of your battery operated power tools you have if you know...

Originally Posted by spanko Well, borrowing from the movie Matrix, the terms blue pill and red pill have become a popular metaphor for the choice between the blissful ignorance of illusion (blue) and embracing the sometimes painful truth of reality (red). I guess we can see why Joe chose blue...

Originally Posted by spanko Here, you fill in the blank! Just a little blue pill

Originally Posted by Cranberry I was wondering when I was going to get vibes from you! Sorry at my age it takes time getting the old mojo up and working if you know what i mean Who Dat, Who Dat, Who Dat want that house Who Dat who Dat Need that house. Who DAT GONNA GET THAT HOUSE CRANBERRY...

boiling live rock commonly refers to keeping the rock in the dark to kill off the algae and stuff. I personally have never heard of this reference to boiling live rock can you post some links to this reference. BTW I have heard of keeping live rock in the dark called "cooking it"

45 Long 48 1/4 x12 3/4 x19

Originally Posted by Cranberry OMG I need a drink

Got my mojo working, working ,working

Looks like rock to me, and they say I drink

Yes you have a great fish. BUT if this was the old days in Hawaii and you were not royalty and eat one you would be put to death

first it looks great second Live rock is NOT the holy grail